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  • NovaSel@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    This practice already exists; it’s called Tactical Voting and it’s the reaso why winner-take-all systems tend towards two parties in the first place

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    the dems have not proven to be a valid counter weight. they’re financed by the same billionaire cabal, so they won’t enact real change as is. there is some movement, but the people holding on to power are still fighting for their power (and mostly nothing else but money)

  • SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app
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    2 days ago

    You vote your heart in the primaries. In the actual election, you vote against the worst.

    At least, until we get ranked choice voting or something better than the two-party system we have now.

  • db2@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I call it least worst politics. We really really need to stop doing that.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      It’s why in the US, voting is the minimum we should be doing. Hence why I mentioned crabby letters and protests. More, up to and including general strikes and civil war once the discontent is severe enough and much of the population has little left to lose.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      Which can be done via elections if their mechanisms are improved, such as proportional representation or ranked choice. But this system was made to keep the system stable while slavers were in power.

      It’s going to take more than mere elections to change that.

      Hence, crabby letters and protests. General strikes if you can organize them. Civil war likely once the ownership class turns to massacres to preserve their wealth and power.

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        2 days ago

        Versus simply letting your friends go homeless to die on the street because they couldn’t afford their basic necessities.

        Either way, innocent people are dying because the system continues unabated.

    • Victor@lemmy.world
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      I don’t understand people who would lay down their vote in some kind of “protest”. It’s like saying “It’ll be cloudy with a high probability of rain. Welp, I’m bringing only my swimsuit made of paper.” Actively not participating and thus allowing further harm. Such bullshit.

    • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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      2 days ago

      Yea. Engaging within the electoralist system under capitalism is always going to be a choice of “be oppressed with a smile” or “be oppressed with an iron fist”

      Either way you’re still being oppressed so maybe we should be focusing our efforts on stopping the oppression instead of picking the best oppressor.

      Vote or don’t, I really don’t give a shit. It makes little difference. What I care about is how people are trying to organize their local communities to engage in mutual aid or defense that actually materially helps those in said communities.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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        I find voting worthwhile primarily because it’s a good excuse to pay closer attention and educate yourself about what’s happening, especially in local politics. But I agree that political change will require extra-electoral tactics.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    You can’t evolve unless the marginally-better candidate gets in. In a binary race, you choose the least-worse or you accept the worst.

  • vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    It’s one of the things that I really don’t understand about the way Americans experience their elections.

    Navigating a FPTP system necessitates a large measure of strategizing. You’ll almost never get to vote for the candidate you really want. But, instead of that half of them are like “THIS PARTY IS MY ENTIRE POLITICAL IDENTITY NOW”. And the other half is like “I’M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THE LESSER EVIL”.

    And, dear listeners, the sum total of those two attitudes is that a lot of otherwise politically engaged people just effectively don’t participate in the political process at all, either through virtuous abstention or through abdication to the party leadership.

    Of course, that’s all moot now since you’re effectively a fascist dictatorship.

  • stoy@lemmy.zip
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    Yeah, this is what I tried to tell people in the last election who refused to vote at all.

    But some people decided that it was completely impossible to vote for Kamala, even if they hated Trump, and would either refuse to vote at all or vote for a third party, both of which benefitted Trump.

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    its hilarious how libs preach lesser evilism when it comes to voting but then dunk on “campists” when it comes to geopolitics

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      That’s how the system is built, and intentionally so. It’s going to take pressure to change the system so that it isn’t two-party.

      We have to suffer the consequences of these elections whether or not we voted in them, or for whom.

      And the biggest pushes by campaign propaganda machines in 2016, 2020 and 2024 have been to pressure people not to vote.