Undoing this damage will require the US to take a long hard look at itself and I don’t think there is the impetus to do that.
Why would, for example Europe, want to get back in bed with the US as long as the GOP who caused all of the problems still exist? We could have 8 years of stability and then some other insane republican gets in and it’s back to square one again. The better option is to just label the US’s politically unstable, and not have anything to do with them anymore.
If you want the rest of the world to trust you again you’re going to have to put these idiots on trial, give them serious prison sentences, and then change the stupid constitution so that convicted criminals are ineligible for office and the president isn’t God emperor, they have some limits on power. Also having the president elect court justices is obviously stupid as well, fix that.
Pre-Trump US is over. You can’t undo the damage he’s caused and go back to how it has been.
If there are fair elections and the Dems take the House and Senate investigations will begin and his crony’s will close ranks because they are just as culpable. Dems have no interest in a presidential candidate who is just going to ignore the crimes of the past administration like Obama or a wish to return to norms like Biden.
The left will want these people prosecuted and jailed when we return to power. The right will do whatever it takes to stay in power to prevent this from happening. The oligarchs will do anything to preserve their grasp on both parties so they don’t become targets.
No matter how it plays out the US will be a turbulent place for at least a decade after the 2028 election.
too late, its not even the midterms yet, texas, lousiania, tennesee, florida and other gop states already gerrymandering harder now, and cancelling elections.
Meanwhile the right owns the supreme court and a lot of lower court judges, so good luck with that prosecution. It will drag out for years and result in nothing.
The lasting side effect is going to be the rest of the world continuing to think of the US as a joke and all the trade relations they are building now. When the US settles back down they will never again weild the power they once had.
Vote blue no matter who. If we can win enough of a majority in the senate and the house over the next two elections we may be able to expand and pack the Supreme Court.
When primaries start the following needs to be the litmus test for all candidates.
1 Do you support prosecution of criminals within the Trump/Republican regime.
Do you support packing the Supreme Court.
Edit: Apparently what I’m asking for above is too radical for this sub and I can’t reply to comments. Please see my edit below for my response to only voting for leftists.
You’re not going to get a leftist Dem elected in red states like Iowa or Texas.
By adopting the stance that you won’t vote for a non leftist in the Dem party you will guarantee Republicans and facists control of the senate and house and you will remain a ineffective minority while the right clocks up more Supreme Court seats and makes it impossible to vote for any left wing or Dem. Candidate
to be fair us has never been leftists, or had a significant “left” voting or politician, its the most right wing western country out there. we have schumer, hakeem,newsom who are center right, and most of the people in the houses are around the same leaning.
It’s over a year into Trump’s term and it’s still crickets from the leftists so I’m voting democrat in the midterms so we can at least slow down the damage he’s doing.
Pretty sure leftists have been more outspoken than liberals. On the day the court stripped away black representation in congress Chuck Schumer was praising Trump for some stupid horse shit. There’s a debate between who’s worse between do nothing democrats and fascists who accelerate the pain and force people awake. They’re both relatively valid views, but the primaries are the most important election in both arguments.
Meh, the US was founded by a bunch of slave owning wealthy protofascist genocidal fucks. You can’t really recover from country designed by the wealthy for the wealthy.
Yea. This country was doomed from the start. This is just the inevitable end to our fucked up society. The world is better off without this Imperialist shithole helping to rot the world.
the propagandas worked so well, people dont support any progressive developments in the USA. Its just a slow death/decline for the usa going on for like 50+years. the gop is the bleeding wound, and the DNC is the temporary bandaids.
Try the last 100 years. The people should have revolted instead of accepting the New Deal concession package. They managed to pacify us to keep the capitalist economy running and then spent the next century dismantling the foundations of resistance.
I was just commenting that pre-Trumplethinskin is an imaginary state as the US was fascist before we had a name for it. You can’t harken back to a supposed better time when it never existed except inside the head of a misinformed person.
Even if we accept that, doesn’t the existence of somewhat functional democracies that also started as oligarchies refute the statement that “you can’t really recover”?
I believe they are saying that since the previous state was not functional, returning to it would not count as recovery and one needs to fix underlying problems that existed for most/all of the USA’s history.
In git terms: Reverting the branch to the pre-2016 state will not be enough because the issue was caused by old technical debt and one will have to refactor that as well.
No, I reject your musing. Numerous studies have shown the will of the people is a false premise. We live in a fascist world that uses democracy as a window dressing for oligarchy.
This may not be reversible, some things he does especially involving painting granite, like the OEOB proposal, are not really fixable. So this thing is now coated forever unless it’s torn up and replaced, and the coating will break down within years I’m sure.
It’s ruined in the short term for sure. It’s a reflecting pool, not a swimming pool. It’s supposed to be dark, not light blue.
It’s my understanding it is fed with water from the Potomac, so there is no way to keep it blue, there are no filtration systems in place that they can add chlorine to. So the pool will end up turning black again, it will just look patchy and ugly.
It’s so on the nose for this asshole who is unable to engage in self reflection at all to ruin the reflection pool because he doesn’t understand what it’s for and thinks, “pools need to be blue!”.
dont think its reversible, right now they are getting thier golden parachutes ready to ditch the usa, for EU/UK/NZ/AUS when this all over. plus the DNC is totally complicit with trump on this, i dont think NEWSOME being so milquetoast would be do anything useful.
Unless, by some miracle, a Mamdani presents themselves and gets elected through ruthless force Obama-style, nothing is changing. The centrists will gladly let his monuments and statues and gold leaf stand as long as they continue to personally benefit from it all.
I can’t wait till a real adult gets in there and unfucks everything this pedophile fucked.
If he hasn’t already fucked it into submission.
Undoing this damage will require the US to take a long hard look at itself and I don’t think there is the impetus to do that.
Why would, for example Europe, want to get back in bed with the US as long as the GOP who caused all of the problems still exist? We could have 8 years of stability and then some other insane republican gets in and it’s back to square one again. The better option is to just label the US’s politically unstable, and not have anything to do with them anymore.
If you want the rest of the world to trust you again you’re going to have to put these idiots on trial, give them serious prison sentences, and then change the stupid constitution so that convicted criminals are ineligible for office and the president isn’t God emperor, they have some limits on power. Also having the president elect court justices is obviously stupid as well, fix that.
Of course none of this will happen.
Pre-Trump US is over. You can’t undo the damage he’s caused and go back to how it has been.
If there are fair elections and the Dems take the House and Senate investigations will begin and his crony’s will close ranks because they are just as culpable. Dems have no interest in a presidential candidate who is just going to ignore the crimes of the past administration like Obama or a wish to return to norms like Biden.
The left will want these people prosecuted and jailed when we return to power. The right will do whatever it takes to stay in power to prevent this from happening. The oligarchs will do anything to preserve their grasp on both parties so they don’t become targets.
No matter how it plays out the US will be a turbulent place for at least a decade after the 2028 election.
too late, its not even the midterms yet, texas, lousiania, tennesee, florida and other gop states already gerrymandering harder now, and cancelling elections.
Worse than canceling elections, they are voiding elections.
Meanwhile the right owns the supreme court and a lot of lower court judges, so good luck with that prosecution. It will drag out for years and result in nothing.
The lasting side effect is going to be the rest of the world continuing to think of the US as a joke and all the trade relations they are building now. When the US settles back down they will never again weild the power they once had.
they also own ALL THE MSMs to sway conservatives on thier side 100%,
Vote blue no matter who. If we can win enough of a majority in the senate and the house over the next two elections we may be able to expand and pack the Supreme Court.
When primaries start the following needs to be the litmus test for all candidates.
1 Do you support prosecution of criminals within the Trump/Republican regime.
Edit: Apparently what I’m asking for above is too radical for this sub and I can’t reply to comments. Please see my edit below for my response to only voting for leftists.
You’re not going to get a leftist Dem elected in red states like Iowa or Texas.
By adopting the stance that you won’t vote for a non leftist in the Dem party you will guarantee Republicans and facists control of the senate and house and you will remain a ineffective minority while the right clocks up more Supreme Court seats and makes it impossible to vote for any left wing or Dem. Candidate
The primaries have been going on for a while. Not enough progressives challenged so-called moderate dems.
to be fair us has never been leftists, or had a significant “left” voting or politician, its the most right wing western country out there. we have schumer, hakeem,newsom who are center right, and most of the people in the houses are around the same leaning.
*Vote in the primaries so you have a chance at a leftist dem, then vote blue no matter who.
It’s over a year into Trump’s term and it’s still crickets from the leftists so I’m voting democrat in the midterms so we can at least slow down the damage he’s doing.
Pretty sure leftists have been more outspoken than liberals. On the day the court stripped away black representation in congress Chuck Schumer was praising Trump for some stupid horse shit. There’s a debate between who’s worse between do nothing democrats and fascists who accelerate the pain and force people awake. They’re both relatively valid views, but the primaries are the most important election in both arguments.
Meh, the US was founded by a bunch of slave owning wealthy protofascist genocidal fucks. You can’t really recover from country designed by the wealthy for the wealthy.
specifically racist, white ,mysogynistic people. remember nazi party really started in the USA, germany just took pointers from our segregation laws.
Yea. This country was doomed from the start. This is just the inevitable end to our fucked up society. The world is better off without this Imperialist shithole helping to rot the world.
the propagandas worked so well, people dont support any progressive developments in the USA. Its just a slow death/decline for the usa going on for like 50+years. the gop is the bleeding wound, and the DNC is the temporary bandaids.
Try the last 100 years. The people should have revolted instead of accepting the New Deal concession package. They managed to pacify us to keep the capitalist economy running and then spent the next century dismantling the foundations of resistance.
How’s that? Every current democracy, including the decently functioning ones, started as an oligarchic system of some kind.
I was just commenting that pre-Trumplethinskin is an imaginary state as the US was fascist before we had a name for it. You can’t harken back to a supposed better time when it never existed except inside the head of a misinformed person.
Even if we accept that, doesn’t the existence of somewhat functional democracies that also started as oligarchies refute the statement that “you can’t really recover”?
I believe they are saying that since the previous state was not functional, returning to it would not count as recovery and one needs to fix underlying problems that existed for most/all of the USA’s history.
In git terms: Reverting the branch to the pre-2016 state will not be enough because the issue was caused by old technical debt and one will have to refactor that as well.
No, I reject your musing. Numerous studies have shown the will of the people is a false premise. We live in a fascist world that uses democracy as a window dressing for oligarchy.
Which study, for example?
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba
You gotta be careful or you’ll cut yourself on all that edge
Please, that is just the tip of the iceberg. I will gladly bring receipts.
This may not be reversible, some things he does especially involving painting granite, like the OEOB proposal, are not really fixable. So this thing is now coated forever unless it’s torn up and replaced, and the coating will break down within years I’m sure.
The damage he’s done in a year is likely not going to be fixed in our lifetimes with the rate that we make progress in this country.
“The rate at which we make progress”
See: Backwards :/
At the very least, this isn’t an old/historic pool, the old one was ripped up entirely in 2010 and remade with new concrete.
So if he ruins it, it’ll cost a bit to fix but it’s not ruining a historical artifact.
It’s ruined in the short term for sure. It’s a reflecting pool, not a swimming pool. It’s supposed to be dark, not light blue.
It’s my understanding it is fed with water from the Potomac, so there is no way to keep it blue, there are no filtration systems in place that they can add chlorine to. So the pool will end up turning black again, it will just look patchy and ugly.
It’s so on the nose for this asshole who is unable to engage in self reflection at all to ruin the reflection pool because he doesn’t understand what it’s for and thinks, “pools need to be blue!”.
2010 you say, so this is yet another thing that was done during Obama that trump has to mess with.
Just grind the surface like any other concrete job.
You can’t un fuck a child. Once child rape is done it’s done and I can’t believe I just said this about a sitting president in the United States
dont think its reversible, right now they are getting thier golden parachutes ready to ditch the usa, for EU/UK/NZ/AUS when this all over. plus the DNC is totally complicit with trump on this, i dont think NEWSOME being so milquetoast would be do anything useful.
sweet summer child… nobody is coming to save you
Not just for me, my friend… this affects the entire world. This piece of shit is a danger to the entire world, geopolitically and environmentally.
yes but I’m not holding out in hope democracy, which was alnowed to be destroyed in Murica, comes to save us magically
They better prosecute the lot of them this time
HEY! Prosecuting Pedophiles is TOO Political!
-Democrats!
Unless, by some miracle, a Mamdani presents themselves and gets elected through ruthless force Obama-style, nothing is changing. The centrists will gladly let his monuments and statues and gold leaf stand as long as they continue to personally benefit from it all.
I thought he was foreign born which would make him ineligible to be president.
Yeah, that’s why it says “a Mamdani” and not Mamdani.