The moment someone is critical of steam or gaben in a thread, they instantly get dogpilled by the gaben defense squad. No one does this with tires, your example is pure pretend.
People do simp for Gaben and Steam. Both are better than their counterparts sure, in the same way Walmart is better than Amazon. Obviously, no one comes into a thread about Walmart or Tires with the same energy though.
Like, immigration. A lot of people feel that people should not enter the US undocumented, trending towards high-risk jobs and disengaging from American systems.
But they’d rather have them around, albeit illegally, than hard-push the sociopathic idea we need a Final Solution that uses a masked, domestic terrorist network to collect anyone non-white into concentration camps.
Most sane people focus on solving big-ticket problems in the world, not putting hardline focus on lesser issues. Attacking Steam does not in any significant way resolve wealth disparity across the United States.
So I like this analogy but I feel like in our case, you would have Microsoft for example as ICE and Steam as regular mildly racist cops. In the end, they are both part of the same system and abuse of it in the same way, just at different levels of intensity. Most of the time, they help each other abuse of it and back each other.
We need legislation for all game stores, but we will never get any if most gamers keep thinking steam isn’t part of the problem.
I understand choosing a lesser evil, but not defending it. Like how we all had to choose kamala but you wouldn’t catch me dead actually defending the shit show she orchestrated. Also, the defending when it comes to steam kind of feels like bootlicking more than anything tbh.
One of the best pieces of legislation in favor of game preservation is Stop Killing Games. Most people you talk with in /Games urgently support it. So far as I have seen, Valve/Steam have not done anything to stand in its way.
Yup, just like when cops sit back and watch Ice act I guess. Inaction doesn’t make them the good guys, especially when steam could legit actually tell publishers they can’t kill their games when it’s sold through their platform.
Didn’t steam have a heavy hand in popularizing DRM? I’m fairly certain the system is built so I don’t own the games and steam plays along like the rest, creating an environment where it’s possible to kill games in the first place.
This isn’t the best argument in their favor tbh.
Edit: Welp, green bean machine is mass downvoting me with 5 of his accounts.
especially when steam could legit actually tell publishers they can’t kill their games when it’s sold through their platform.
Steam actually does take a hand in this to a degree. For instance, they don’t apply any mechanisms wherein a player who bought a game simply “cannot download it” anymore. They can’t do anything to force online servers to stay up, but for example: You can’t buy the Telltale Law and Order game anymore. I can still download it to my Steam account on any device, because I bought it when it was around.
Steam definitely did not popularize DRM - there’s a reason GabeN is attributed for the “piracy is a service problem” quote. He made Steam because the most common DRM systems of the time were a huge roadblock for gamers. In turn, he created a system that was appealing for both players and publishers; even if it’s not as consumer-open as GOG.
“there’s toxic, radioactive, sludge all over the front yard! What the fuck this is terrible! We need to get rid of that”
“There’s a huge pile of old tires in the back yard, too.”
“Yeah that’s no good. At least my kids can play on it like a jungle gym. The sludge though, we need to fix asap”
“So you love tires and garbage??”
The moment someone is critical of steam or gaben in a thread, they instantly get dogpilled by the gaben defense squad. No one does this with tires, your example is pure pretend.
People do simp for Gaben and Steam. Both are better than their counterparts sure, in the same way Walmart is better than Amazon. Obviously, no one comes into a thread about Walmart or Tires with the same energy though.
People definitely do defend “lesser evils”.
Like, immigration. A lot of people feel that people should not enter the US undocumented, trending towards high-risk jobs and disengaging from American systems.
But they’d rather have them around, albeit illegally, than hard-push the sociopathic idea we need a Final Solution that uses a masked, domestic terrorist network to collect anyone non-white into concentration camps.
Most sane people focus on solving big-ticket problems in the world, not putting hardline focus on lesser issues. Attacking Steam does not in any significant way resolve wealth disparity across the United States.
So I like this analogy but I feel like in our case, you would have Microsoft for example as ICE and Steam as regular mildly racist cops. In the end, they are both part of the same system and abuse of it in the same way, just at different levels of intensity. Most of the time, they help each other abuse of it and back each other.
We need legislation for all game stores, but we will never get any if most gamers keep thinking steam isn’t part of the problem.
I understand choosing a lesser evil, but not defending it. Like how we all had to choose kamala but you wouldn’t catch me dead actually defending the shit show she orchestrated. Also, the defending when it comes to steam kind of feels like bootlicking more than anything tbh.
One of the best pieces of legislation in favor of game preservation is Stop Killing Games. Most people you talk with in /Games urgently support it. So far as I have seen, Valve/Steam have not done anything to stand in its way.
Yup, just like when cops sit back and watch Ice act I guess. Inaction doesn’t make them the good guys, especially when steam could legit actually tell publishers they can’t kill their games when it’s sold through their platform.
Didn’t steam have a heavy hand in popularizing DRM? I’m fairly certain the system is built so I don’t own the games and steam plays along like the rest, creating an environment where it’s possible to kill games in the first place.
This isn’t the best argument in their favor tbh.
Edit: Welp, green bean machine is mass downvoting me with 5 of his accounts.
Steam actually does take a hand in this to a degree. For instance, they don’t apply any mechanisms wherein a player who bought a game simply “cannot download it” anymore. They can’t do anything to force online servers to stay up, but for example: You can’t buy the Telltale Law and Order game anymore. I can still download it to my Steam account on any device, because I bought it when it was around.
Steam definitely did not popularize DRM - there’s a reason GabeN is attributed for the “piracy is a service problem” quote. He made Steam because the most common DRM systems of the time were a huge roadblock for gamers. In turn, he created a system that was appealing for both players and publishers; even if it’s not as consumer-open as GOG.