• nathanjent@programming.dev
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    I used to joke about my children having to fight in the “Trump Wars” during his first term. Then he got reelected. It’s not funny anymore.

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      I think they all see it, but are scared to say it out loud in case he gets activated. Like when you see youre being watched late at night. You dont run and scream immediately you sort of walk a tiny bit faster trying not to let them know that you know because that’ll trigger the chase.

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    14 hours ago

    US invading Iran is similar to Putin invading Brazil btw distance-wise. Which one can you imagine ever happening?

    • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      There’s a lot going wrong in that country, sadly. But their stance lately on the US and Israel is admirable and should be an example for the rest of the EU, and the world. Silence is compliance.

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      14 hours ago

      Oh, so hard! Closed airspace to US planes. Wow! It must be very scary.

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        Spain’s location is very important strategically, and not being able to us Naval Station Rota, and Morón airbase complicates things for the US. Disabling, no, but it certainly makes things harder.

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          Awesome. Better late than never.

          But if their PM says they’ve given 4 billion I suppose it must be true. He is the leader of a country after all. They would never lie or skew the truth in their favour.

          Spain with their corruption are obviously highly trustworthy.

        • Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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          Oh wow… closed airspace for US military planes. Must be real expensive. What a huge sacrifice.

          They’re not risking anything. It doesn’t cost them anything. The only reason they close it is for their own domestic politics.

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            Naval Station Rota, and Morón Airbase are pretty fucking big, strategic, and not being able to use them is not trivial.

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            You probably don’t mean to, but you’re sounding like a bit of an ignorant asshole. Were you like hangry or sth when you wrote this?

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              10 hours ago

              Possibly. I am in the process of decreasing my carb intake by 99%

              Great that they closed their airspace. Truly. But praising them for “going hard” I think is silly. And I stand by that their reason for doing so is purely for domestic politics. It’s the right decision but for the wrong reason.

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                for the wrong reason.

                I don’t see why this matters to you at all. If someone feeds the homeless nefariously, then let them. The homeless are getting fed. If someone stops the holocaust because it allows them to cement their hegemony, or because they got paid for it, whatever! If it stops the holocaust, I’m happy.

                • Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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                  Except it doesn’t stop the genocide at all.

                  And the problem with doing the right thing for the wrong reason is that next time it’s not going to be the right thing.

                  And people do feed homeless people nefariously, it’s a real problem for real people. Mixing in moulded food. Filling sandwiches with toothpaste.

                  I’m sure you want them to say thank you and eat around the toothpaste… but I’m not going to praise them for it.

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                  Why would it be relative? I’m sure Denmark could close their airspace to the US too, but it’s not relevant so does it matter?

                  Other countries are busy spending enormous sums of money and resources on helping Ukraine. Opening up a second front in a second war has never been a successful strategy.

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                Mate, Spain isn’t doing great itself. As much as I would love to have Spain’s support, they need ours first. There is a lot of corruption, poverty, inequality, oppression of minority groups, etc. The fact they speak out against a tyrant does more on the world stage than staying politically correct and trying to keep the modern fascist regime a friend because that would be the economically smart choice.

                We need people to speak up, to take a side, because silance is compliance. In history we remember the ones who did. Like Martin Luther King and Ghandi, to just name a few. Their words meant more than their money. We also remember the UK and France for taking a stance against Hitler too late, after letting him go too far already.

                Even the pope is doing it. It has always been the strongest power of the Vatican, even though their wealth could end world hunger more than once.

                What Spain is risking by closing it’s airspace to the US, is war with the US if the US doesn’t give a shit and uses its airspace, and Spain keeps its word. I wouldn’t say that’s just bark and no bite. That shit is serious. It’s only just bark if they don’t enforce it, but we don’t know that yet. At least they take a strong stance, which should be an example to us all. They risk war with a super power to take a moral stance. They are modern day heroes if you ask me. Rosa Park did the same, taking huge risks to take a stance.

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                  They are not doing great themselves, yes, there’s plenty of corruption to go around, is any of that an excuse? Their problems didn’t happen yesterday. They’ve had plenty of time to work for a better future. All while being funded by the EU. They’re just not interested…

                  I’m not complaining about Spain closing their airspace. That’s great.

                  But giving Spain credit for “going hard” is just wrong. For decades they’ve gone by doing the bare minimum, if even that, reaping every possible benefit of EU while contributing nothing of worth or significance.

                  Spain is not risking war with the US. Not even close.

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    Honestly they’re correct. Putin at least seems somewhat predictable and he’s definitely more intelligent.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    Well, yeah, at least Putin is smart, and will act strategically. Trump is just a monkey flinging poop.

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      Yeah, very smart that one. If he didn’t attack Ukraine, Russia would have been one of the wealthiest countries in the world. The entire EU was dependent on them ffs. Now it wouldn’t surprise me if I hear that the federation breaks apart very soon.

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      He couldn’t even take Ukraine. The biggest difference is that he isn’t a terminally online manbaby who needs constant attention.

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    Putin is finished, he is a walking dead together with the Russian Empire he wanted to create.
    But we need to support Ukraine more, so this stupid war isn’t prolonged more than necessary. When the war is over both Ukraine and EU will prosper.

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      We need to help Ukraine win ASAP so that we can redirect our military resources to defending ourselves against the United States.

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    Putin and Trump are the same threat, just look at what they do in Hungary.

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      Putin is stuck in the past (concretely USSR era) and Trump is stuck in the present (terminally online tech bro)

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    So do we Americans.

    Let these escapades serve as an example that, outside of the Epstein Class, people’s only power here is local.