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      I do. YouTube premium is cheap, i can add 5 other other people to my plan and they all the benefits, i get ad free music in my car (i cancelled XMradio because YouTube is better) and all my devices like my phone, car, smart tv, computer get ad free shows.

      It’s a way better service than netflix because Netflix didn’t let be add people outside my house. And it’s way better than Amazon prime, because that chat extra flfor ad free but you still get ads!

      I’ll support any company that gives me a cheap ad free plan that i can share with the family outside my house with no issues.

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        Yeah, not having ads in the phone app, the TV app, the music app on the phone or in the browser is really nice, I love it. Also got that for all my friends and family.

        Never paid YouTube a dime though :)

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          how can I do it on the tv app? I have a Google tv and and a mibox and I absolutely hate watching youtube on those bc the fucking ads are over a minute long sometimes.

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            There’s an app for Google/Android tv called smart tube next. It’s pretty easy to install and works wonders. It’s made me use YouTube in my tv a lot more since I installed it.

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        Exactly. I will pay for things that I want. If you do not sell them to me I will get them some other way or satisfy myself with other things.

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    That’s basically google’s main business. Their business is not in web search, video platform, mobile OS, email or AI, it’s ad. People forget Google is an ad company, that uses any tool available to give you ad. If it’s free and not open source, you are the product. Either to sell your attention and availability to companies through ads, or to use your data to do profiling, build a more vicious ad platform and sell your data on the side.

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    Every single youtube channel needs to start seeding torrents of their videos, and posting those links to other platforms (here, mastodon, etc).

    Youtube / google could be defeated collectively if creators were to consistently do this, and interested people had the ability to help seed videos.

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        Most of the channels I know ask for donations via patreon or other funding platforms. I don’t think youtube pays much except for maybe the top 1% of slop channels.

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          A lot more people make money than the top 1%. The top 1% make big money, but many more may not make a fortune, but it’s a legit side hustle for them. Get into the right niche, and you can do VERY well.

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        In most cases, not all that much. YouTube is mainly useful for getting views and building an audience. It’s a combination of revenue sources like sponsors, merchandise, donations, etc., that really make it worthwhile for creators.

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        I go to my son’s house, and start browsing through his streamers, and he’s got all kinds of stuff I never see. They keep me boxed into the algorithm they’ve assigned to me, and wont let me see anything else, so I keep picking from their choices for me, which only locks me harder into their box.

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          I’ve tried to escape several times with no luck. I’ve deleted my entire history, views, comments, unsubscribed from channels, you name it. Within a day it looks like I never left.

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            Which browser and adlocker are you using?

            I’m not seeing this at on Firefox w ublock origin

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      I mean peer tube and similar exist. I think the majority of channels with over a 25k views, I don’t think there’s a consistant number anyone gets, but something like 100 bucks per 25k views or so is pretty common.

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        Peer tube uses webtorrents, which for many reasons haven’t caught on. It’s still mainly centralized nodes with massive hosting costs. Torrents are the fully decentralized answer.

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    “Perpetrators offer a service that will not be put into effect, or offer a service that solves a problem that would not exist without the racket.”

    The very definition of racketeering.

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    I’ve said this a few times in various places, but I’m really surprised we aren’t allowed to bid for ad space for ourselves to not show an ad the way advertisers do for ads. Obviously a flat monthly rate is simpler, nobody is denying that, but just from a purely “free market” perspective (which shareholders love to say they want while using the government to crush opposition) why can’t I pay slightly more than whatever small amount of money someone is paying to show me an ad to not see the ad?

    Realistically I don’t think we’ll ever see that because it’s a fairly complicated. I don’t have any hard data, but I can’t imagine that the majority of users using something like YouTube Premium are getting a “good deal.” Sure, some folks probably watch all day every day and they get the better end of the deal, but I’d bet for a lot of folks YouTube makes more money off charging the subscription than they would showing the ads. Which is sort of an odd scenario we’ve gotten ourselves into (but amazing if you’re a company that serves ads).

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        Not necessarily, like if it was YouTube you’d just deposit money and maybe set a maximum amount of money you’re willing to bid. Honestly most standard banner ads are from Google too, so they could handle that. For streaming services you’d need to set it up for each individually, but that’s no different from setting up billing for each of them. They wouldn’t need to talk to each other.

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      Its a good idea but mentally people hate micro-transactions(transactions that are lower than 10cents) so they get mad every time its suggested. Plus its technically quite challenging to process those kind of transactions efficiently.

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        You wouldn’t prompt them every time. And it would be no more difficult than serving the ads which are also charging every time they’re shown.

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          No I wouldnt prompt them at all because the costs would be so low. Even if you paid 5x what an ad pays you’d spend less than a dollar or two a week. But people hate the idea of paying half a cent when visiting a website or watching a youtube video because they think they either shouldnt have to or that it will eventually become $2 to vist that blog and $4 to watch that video and thats a horrible future.

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            I feel like you’re not getting the vision. It would be the same process as subscribing, but money just gets drained from a pool per ad instead of a flat monthly fee. It’s not something you’re seeing a popup for. And it would never cost 5x what an ad costs. It would only ever cost $4 to watch a video without an ad if an advertiser was willing to spend $4 to show you an ad. To put that in perspective, ad impressions are bought in units of cpm which stands for cost per mille which is the amount they pay for one thousand impressions. That would be $4,000 cpm. That’s absolutely insane. That’s orders of magnitude more than what it is today. Nobody is ever going to spend that much to show you an ad unless it’s some crazy profitable, super targeted, ultra niche campaign.

            The whole point of this thought exercise is to explore what companies make in a month from ads versus what they charge for a month of ad free service. People bid for your attention. I think I should be able to bid for it myself instead of paying some opaque, flat rate per month.

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              It would only ever cost $4 to watch a video without an ad if an advertiser was willing to spend $4 to show you an ad.

              I know I only say 5x to show just how cheap it would actually be to outbid advertisers.

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    Some of us pay ourselves to install an ad blocker and then we keep our money and we don’t get any ads.