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  • ~46€/month for the server via their server auctions (triple 512GB SSDs in a zpool, 64GB RAM, i7-7700, in their German datacenter with unlimited Gbit internet… not too shabby!) . Unfortunately, looking at them now, they’ve shot up in price (wonder why… 🙄).

    That’s overkill though. As long as you can get something with full root access and a dedicated IP (which includes their VPS offerings, I am pretty sure), you’re good.

    I know everyone is already glazing Hetzner, but let me just add to the pile… I’ve been customer at a lot of (mostly web, sometimes vps)-hosters over the years, but I don’t think I’ll ever switch away from Hetzner again. Even if they raise prices further. They give you full control, don’t try to upsell, and more importantly, have excellent support.

    As others have mentioned, hosters often block outgoing email ports. This includes Hetzner. Sent them an email, 5min later, ports are open. Need a KVM? Press a button, it’ll be ready in a couple of minutes, once a technician has walked over to your machine and plugged it in. Are you as stupid as I am and have no access to the email account receiving the KVM link? Call support, no queue, immediate problem resolution. One of the SSDs looks like it’s gonna give out soon? Press a button in the dashboard, a technician will come around in a couple of minutes and swap the drive, free of charge.

    IDK it just feels like I’m getting enterprise support for consumer prices.

    Also I just now realize you only asked for a price, so everything beyond the first sentence is just me rambling.


  • I’m hosting my own, on a dedicated Hetzner server (used for a bunch of stuff, “dedicated” as in “only me on the hardware”), using nixos-mailserver.

    I’ve a 10/10 score on all the spam tests / deliverability tests I could find. The only deliverability issue I’ve ever had is t-online, but only because they require you to apply for being allowlisted, lmao. (Was one quick email to do that though, so… fine.)

    It’s been a couple of years of smooth sailing now, so I’m not super worried anymore; esp. in the beginning though, it was a bit anxiety-inducing (and I did cause some downtime by fucking up my bootloader and needing a KVM from Hetzner at one point, that was a very sweaty evening not least because the email address I had put for contact info was, well, handled by the server that was down. Btw Hetzner email you the link to your KVM. Fun times!).

    Anyways: I’m really happy with my setup now, in all aspects. Calendar and contacts self-hosting is also great.

    But, just so you know: you will not be able to do this on your residential IP. Doesn’t matter how hard you try, it will not work. You’ll be able to receive emails no problem, but if you’re lucky you’ll end up in people’s spam folder. More likely, the recipient server will just outright reject or discard your mail.



  • Yes, encrypted (otherwise what’s the point? 😄). I’ll admit I haven’t tried the PGP version yet. How’s client support? For OMEMO it’s pretty lackluster, from what I’ve heard not much different for PGP?

    In any case, perfect forward secrecy is definitely a good thing / strength, but I’d like a way to re-encrypt messages from an old device, just as an example, during the setup process; or a standardized way to export all history; or just something beyond “either use worse or no encryption, or loose access to your history eventually”.


  • I unfortunately wouldn’t call it solved. I host XMPP and Matrix, (and a STUN/TURN server, and a Livekit server for the modern matrix calls…), and nothing is perfect.

    Prosody is really great because it’s so no-nonsense. It doesn’t hog resources or choke up like matrix servers do if you suggest to them that maybe they could deliver this text message? :3 Oh, no, it’s “hold for 2 weeks despite the recipient being online” again? Ok…

    But XMPP is still incredibly hard to recommend for me, because

    1. no way to read old chats on new devices, which honestly is close to a deal-breaker for many people, myself inclided. And
    2. apart from maybe monocles on android, the clients just suck ass. They’re bad. Their UI/UX is stuck 20 years ago, and that does matter.

    Hence why I still mostly use Matrix… Even though it’s such a stupid, stupid protocol.