• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    Israel commiting genocide/ethnic cleansing while the media utterly ignores it?

    Thats utterly preposterous! How could such a thing happen again!? /s

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    I think Israel senses that the writing is on the wall. For decades they’ve preferred to gradually expand their borders, slowly antagonizing their neighbors and then using the resulting retaliations to justify land theft.

    But this shtick is wearing thin. Slowly the tide is turning against Israel, even in the US. And Trump is likely to be the high water mark for US support of Israel. Trump’s given them a blank check, so they’re treating this as their last chance to grab as much land as possible while facing minimal international resistance. This is the fire sale of the US/Israel alliance.

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      Unless the jewish people who oppose the actions of Israel start speaking up there may not be a difference going forward. Sadly.

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      Israel and Zionists constantly conflating the state of Israel with the Jewish people is responsible for much of the rise of anti-semitism, and it’s all on purpose, too. Israel wants Jews living in other nations to feel more and more in danger so that they move to Israel so they can be used as settlers to push more native people out of their homes. It’s all part of the Zionist plan and has been since the formation of the state of Israel.

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        Meanwhile, pretty much every Jewish person I’ve met in Canada has been horrified by Israel’s actions and whole-heartedly support the Palestinian people.

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    Lebanon’s government and military were actually helping Israel combat Hezbollah. It was the only path towards stability.

    You see the thanks this got them…

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    Only a matter of time before they call it something else and the world’s media just pretends it’s always been part of Israel.

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    They’re covering it here in Europe it’s on the news regularly. The problem is that nobody cares in Europe to do anything.

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      To clarify, they cover the facts of the matter in a very abstract, passive way - they’ll say that Lebanon is being struck by Israeli missiles and that IDF forces are telling people to leave their homes, but no one will even come close to suggesting that what’s happening is ethnic cleansing.

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        Sanction Israel for genocide for a start. Cut off diplomatic economic educational and financial ties with them. Like the world did with South Africa.

        But Europe doesn’t give a fuck about genocide unless it’s on their soil.

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            Fair. But if any bloc in the world can do it it’s the European Union. But their members don’t give a shit otherwise they would have by now.

            The fact is no one in Europe cares about it. Years, decades, of weasel words and inaction. Years of illegal occupation and ifnoryof UN mandates. Years of on going genocide. But the people dying aren’t white Europeans… oh well too bad for them I suppose?

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              Yeah, and Pakistan and Indonesia have done what exactly? The Saudis have sanctioned and oil embargoed the US? Egypt has forced aid through the Gaza border? Turkey has seized American military bases? Right? Right? No.

              Everyone is complicit. More or less every nation would rather have peace and comfortable political discussions, rather than stand up against the world hegemon. Some tried, Libya, Iraq, Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran. Find me one country that has opposed the US in this? And before you say Spain, let me note that they haven’t even kicked out their ambassador. What do you want from Europe that no other country is willing to do?

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                The difference is that European countries regularly proselytise how open and kind they are and how they respect the rule of law and international human rights. Pakistan / Saudi Arabia doesn’t 😄.

                Everyone is complicit.

                Yes. They are. But Europe should take a lead in this if I am honest. Lead by example that if you genocide people you can’t do business here.

                But that’s not going to happen.

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                  I agree 100%, and as a European I am disgusted by the political elites here and have been since the Iraq War when I marched in protest against their obvious violations of international law. But the so called democracies of Europe are in many ways plutocracies beholden to the plutocracy of the US. I’ve voted, protested, written in the papers and been part of organizations, yet my opinions are by the majority considered radical and unrealistic. But at least in Europe, people like me are not put behind bars.

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                The sanctions should be on the state who is building colonies and not simply some random settlers and settler orgs

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        There are European nations that send a lot of money to Israel every year. Maybe they can stop doing that?

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    They didn’t cover the cleansing of a primarily Muslim territory, why should it differ from cleansing primarily Christian territory?

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      Stop it with your conspiracy theories. There’s literally a video running around oof a BBC journalist getting bombed live in lebanon. They’re covering it.

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    We’re going to have a world war against the USA and Israel. It might not be today, tomorrow or even in a few years… but I feel like it’s inevitable. They are rogue terrorist states and are responsible some of the most heinous war crimes in recorded history. They need to be stopped.

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      This is a gross generalization. It’s like aliens looking down on earth and saying “we really have to do something about these humans.”

      Like, sure. We, as a species, might have earned that… But, is it all humans?

      The right shift in power across nations could solve this. It starts with people acknowledging that the real issue is rogue governments. Right now in the United States, our government is rogue.

      Random people born in Russia don’t want to kill Ukrainians any more than every American wants to kill random people in the Middle East. Our humanity is important, and where you’re born and live doesn’t dictate your loyalty to empowered dictators.

      The movement that needs to happen is one where the people rise up in all nations, and unite. It starts with language. America doesn’t need to be destroyed any more than Russia, but their governments require radical changes.

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      It’s happening now, western countries have just mostly decided to fall in line and support them

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      No way Europe meaningfully stands up to Uncle Sam, and heinous Israeli-American war crimes are nothing new. Trump still hasn’t actually outdone the Iraq war, for example.

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        They won’t because Europe is always on the loosing side and getting in any war is bad, against the us, let’s be honest, it would be a disaster. Europe have to protect their people too.
        The war that will change the world will be US x China. China is a military superpower and it is surpassing the US, or at least matching them, little by little.
        That’s the scary part for me. they will end the world

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          They won’t because Europe is always on the loosing side and getting in any war is bad, against the us, let’s be honest, it would be a disaster.

          I meant diplomatically and economically, not necessarily militarily. There are cards that can be played without getting into a hot (or even cold) war with the US; (most) European countries just don’t use them because A: Their elites profit from US war crimes too, and B: Most of them are happy being US vassal states.

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      Maybe I’m ignorant but if every English speaking nation stood together and told the US that they were being evil and doing wrong, and that they’d no longer join in with their invasions, the US would probably stand down.

      Too bad they’re all pussies (Australia included)

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        This might have been the case under sane-but-horrible leaders like George W. Bush, Mike Pence, and the last Democrats, but I think this outcome is improbable as 1) that international united refusal didn’t happen when George W. Bush waged war over lies in the Middle East; 2) This administration is composed of hyped-up christo-fascists and their sycophants, and is goaded by oligarchs who want the destruction of the USA so they can buy up what remains.

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          It’s fucking wild that W is a beacon of sanity now. You aint wrong but its still fucking wild

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      I don’t think so. They can’t manufacture their weapons if the rest of the world stops exporting parts and material inputs to them. They are very far from self-reliant.

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      Just keep this in mind during the next election when you see the US suspects pushing “both sides” and “corporate dem” narratives. Don’t be a sucker.

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      Doesnt work that way. Evil is not a country. You can attack it and try to destroy it, and if you succeed, another country will take its place.

      But yeah, its worth doing anyway since it gives temporary relief. Otherwise the logic would be to not try to stop oppressive countries, and that obviously doesnt work either.

      What this place needs is a big spiritual upgrade of humans, so they would stop becoming evil just for money and power.

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      Too meme is not the best approach. Don’t concede to the zionists their idea of conflating Judaism with their white supremacist ethnostate. Their defense of claiming that criticizing their atrocities is anti-semitism needs to be dispelled to protect Jews in Palestine and the diaspora who are anti-zionist as well and not alienate them.

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        Respectfully to you, fuck that.

        I don’t hate Jews specifically, but fuck every single religious person. I am done with it. How many time do we need to see genocides or wars or just bombings that are solely motivated through religious indoctrination? You may say that they are misinterpreting the words of the Lord or whatever horseshit, but as far as I am concerned every interpretation is exactly as valid as the next because it is all make believe nonsense.

        Everyone is playing pretend and then get upset when some people use that to steer the “play” into FUCKING MURDER!

        MAYBE STOP PLAYING PRETEND EVERY FUCKING DAY YOU FUCKING MORONS!

        If anyone says that their worldview is shaped by their religious beliefs, it is my view that they are a danger to the public should they hold public office.

        Every. Single. Time. I don’t care what those beliefs are or what your motivations are. Religions are fucking toxic in every iteration.

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          Lol gotta live the hypocrisy in being such a staunch atheist that you think you know objective truth but religious people don’t. Like secular beliefs aren’t narrative as well and like we can actually perceive objective reality through our limited subjected senses. Also, Jewish is not always religion. It’s also ethnicity. There are secular Jews. You claim religions are toxic, but your anti-religiousness seems to make you quite angry and toxic.

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            If you can look around at the results of allowing religions to dominate society for thousands of years and tell me that you think it’s going well, or even that we have a good chance of surviving the century as a species, then I don’t think you are a fully functioning human being.

            I don’t know what the objective truth of the world is. But what I do know, is that that truth has never been ordained to earthly man by a burning fucking bush or whatever the fuck your particular religion dictates.

            Arguing over interpretations of the hallucinations had by uneducated people thousands of years ago is not just pointless, it promotes a level of ignorance worship that is highly corrosive to a functioning society.

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              All forms of centralized hierarchical power are bad: capitalism, nation-state, and organized religion. Nothing wrong with decentralized, liberating spiritual beliefs.

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      That trick doesn’t work anymore. Maybe Zionists should stop playing into stereotypes by bribing influencers and paying off politicians and the news media.

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      Israel and Zionists constantly conflating the state of Israel with the Jewish people is responsible for much of the rise of anti-semitism, and it’s all on purpose, too. Israel wants Jews living in other nations to feel more and more in danger so that they move to Israel so they can be used as settlers to push more native people out of their homes. It’s all part of the Zionist plan and has been since the formation of the state of Israel.