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Brazil is requiring OS level age verification by march 17th, 2026.

New York about to vote on a law that would “require all manufacturers of internet-enabled devices, operating systems, or application stores to conduct commercially reason-able and technically feasible age assurance for users at the point of device activation.”

In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.

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    20 hours ago

    Thanks for sharing these news with us yeah I’m not going back to Ubuntu after this (not it’s a great OS to begin with) but before that we had to deal with snaps bogging up the entire system with updates galore anyway hopefully we can learn this lesson about not using mainstream software to control our data

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    1 day ago

    Do not link Lunduke in here. He is, literally, an insane bigot.

    It does not matter how factual or not the particular thing he is reporting on in this particular instance is.

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      I don’t know who that is, but I was a little annoyed to see a thumbnail of a YouTube thumbnail of a screenshot of Twitter. Why not link to the source?

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    2 days ago

    theres no reason to post lunduke. surely we can get our info from literally any other source

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      Honestly? I’ve done a lot of looking over the last few days and he’s literally the only person I’ve found talking about the Brazilian law coming into effect in 12 days. If you have seen any coverage from anyone else, I would be really interested if you could pass a link my way.

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          Already had a read through it this morning. Seems like some few not too bad ideas mixed through with quite a lot of poorly thought out ones.

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    2 days ago

    Man, they really want to find out who they need to murder, don’t they?

    Because that’s the bottom line. Everybody understands that, right?

    AI is all about replacing as many human jobs with automation as possible, and the Age/ID laws are about tracking down anyone who complains about it.

    This is what we’ve known was coming for decades. It’s finally here.

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      I will literally pull my AMD socket A mobo out of the box and run windows XP before I comply with this bullshit.

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        Or switch to one of the growing number of Linux distros who have taken the stance of “not a fucking chance are we complying with that idiocy” and then just hope where you live doesn’t pass a law like this and those distros are forced to region block downloads for you 👍

        There’s also the worry that if enough places push something like this through, could end up being a case of a vast swath of the internet will just refuse to work without receiving an approved “Age Assurance Signal”…

        Or the bigger worry that this is the beginning of the end of proper human interaction with the internet. Access and child protection laws become so strict that only chat bot agents are legally authorised to use the internet and we all become beholden to these programs for everything from looking up a recipe to requesting access to research papers to help support your masters thesis or fucking whatever.

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    1 day ago

    Make sure to be clear that fake IDs are things you can make and use to bypass this. If using fake names on the internet isn’t unethical to you all why are Fake IDs as a subject avoided like the plague?

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    In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.

    COPPA prevents companies from collecting data on minors without parental consent.

    Sounds like the Epstein Class is still in charge of the FTC.

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      Feels weird upvoting this comment. I have to remind myself. It’s not you I’m mad at. You’re not the one doing this. You’re just the messanger.

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      Sounds like the Epstein Class just wants to know where the children are and make it legal to groom them.

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      The irony knows no bounds, the one half decent reason age verification could exists for is so these companies have no more excuses to ignore coppa because now they can just pretend everyone is a consenting adult.

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        The fact that there will be a signal implying a user is an adult will give all sorts of bad actors plausible deniability, perhaps even legal protection, for exploiting children, who will of course be bypassing it

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      Yeah, this does not sound like it’s going to make our children any safer.

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    Consumer tech fucking sucks. We tried you guys. Time to call it quits on the internet and personal computing. Humans ruin everything.

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    If the speedrun strategy is “introduce a stupid law, wait for everyone to go ‘holy shit none of this can be realistically implemented in this timeframe’, wait for OS vendors to just ban the use of the OSes in the country, watch the local industry as a whole to rally and petition the government to stop the madness before there’s a new dark age, repeal the clearly stupid law”, all before the California law comes to effect - I’ve got to say it’s a bold strategy and we’ll see how it plays out.

    Edit: Also, not going to upvote a Lunduke video - I’m glad he crams every bit of substantial information in the thumbnails so I can just not listen to him at all

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    2 days ago

    There must be some kind of higher-managed plan on this man. Everything seems to be so sudden and coordinated it just cant be a coincidence. I am NOT giving my ID to use my computer

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      A conspiracy of global elites? Pffft.

      That’s crazytalk.

      It’s not like Peter Thiel ,one time president and current member of the BILDERBERG steering committee , and a bunch of other dudes who worked at PayPal are solely responsible for the trajectory of technology…

      Or like some forum on economics somewhere in the world would coordinate economics, and make some crazy plan with a super unbelievably literal name like agenda 2030 with the dude at the head saying “you’ll own nothing and you will be happy”

      I mean… Crazy. Right.

      The rich should have already been filleted and cooked.

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        Haha imagine if they were all pedofiles, rapists and total degenerates too. haha. HA HA. No way, too crazy right? Pandoras box is open.

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          I know that at a basic psychological level, a person generally must be some form of antisocial/sociopath/psychopath,narcissist to become a billionaire.

          Does becoming a billionaire simply allow for/encourage more extreme levels of behaviors or are they predisposed?

          Is it a rite of passage/secret handshake, or is it just “perks” of being evil?

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      2 days ago

      Remember: it’s up to us to make the cool cyberpunk stuff a reality. The bad stuff is coming no matter what.

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      Pretty much. They‘re essentially outlawing privacy so there will be no point in resisting. This is worse than Orwellian.

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      I feel like there is a line coming with hardware and software and that will be the last of it’s type as the move towards subscription based services is forced onto everyone. Its a shame people won’t vote with their wallets. It just means I’ll have my basement crammed with old tech and I’ll go full old man mode and stop keeping up with technological progress.

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        Its a shame people won’t vote with their wallets.

        I’ve been truly stunned these past several days to find out just how many people, not even crazy facebook people but just average users on Lemmy, pay for a ChatGPT subscription.

        They just don’t care.

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          I had a mental health professional suggest using ChatGPT to make a day planner, it fucking floored me. We are not in the majority here and it sucks when that sinks in.

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        Just learn how to harvest the next generation of chips out of their subscription-based devices that don’t have any onboard RAM or GPU, and then integrate it into your existing system.

        You might have to write your own firmware and triple-check for any backdoors that might send your data back to the mothership, but it’s not like you have to cut yourself off entirely as long as you maintain your own self-sufficient system.

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      This will make it more anonymous because verification relies on a token defined in the OS rather than uploading identification.

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    13 days 😂 Tell me you don’t know how software development works or how operating systems are developed without telling me.

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    It’s gonna be fun when people are sitting around a campfire talking about how bad tech ceos, wall street backed corporations, enshittification, corrupt politicians and fascism all led to the extinction of the tech golden age… as they prepare their spears to fight the next wave of machines coming to harvest them.