• espentan@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    It’s amazing what a national, professionally managed doping programme can do.

    “Look how strong and healthy we are in our shit hole country” was the message.

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      Yanks are pretty good at that also, and also a shithole 😂

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        Specifically what did “yanks” do? Also what comparison can you offer while bleeding “both sides” fallacies like a stuck pig???

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        Idiots are good an insinuating instead of proving anything… you are the shithole so care to prove anything… vs yanks that gave value???

        When did yanks use drugs? Jessie Owen’s? How stupid do you want to get???

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      lol. Shit hole country? Everyone had a job Everyone had a home No one was starving

      why are you salty about them? Is there any proof of doping?

      Edit: I know about holodomor. I am talking about except that

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        Everyone had a job because it was illegal to not have a job. Homeless people were simply put in prison.

        The millions of people who died during holodomor would have a different word about starvation.

        If it would be that good, people wouldn’t wanted to escape.

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          Nothing wrong in making unemployment illegal. Homes were given to everyone, no one would want to be voluntarly homeless, putting in prison is bullshit. Famine is different from starvation and fighting for bread every day. Capitalism starves 6 million people every year. Way more than during soviet famine. Famines were common in pre soviet russia - only one under soviet russia.

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              I literally said one famine under soviet Russia and that was “holodomor”

              I am aware of such laws, no one wants to be unemployed.

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                Your definition of unemployed differed wildly from the state’s definition. E.g. writers, artists who doesn’t had a day to day job in the classical sense were also considered unemployed if they didn’t agree fully with the state. What if the state said the only job you can get is in a stone mine in Siberia? This was also used frequently for opposition people. They couldn’t get a job in their profession, so they had to choose between a not fitting job and between prison. Is this what you want?

                About famines. You compare it to tsarist Russia, and I can’t find any notable one from the 19th century. I wouldn’t compare it to pre-industrial revolution as it was a totally different times. And why don’t you compare it to a country from the list of olympic medals?

                And you wrote “No one was starving” then “I literally said one famine”… Please, at least be consistent. You brought up the topic of starvation.

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                  Damn bro I thought ppl here understood english, sry my bad

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          mentions one olympics no proof that all atheletes ever were doped

          several amrikkkan athletes are also banned for doping

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            We pretty much all agree the US sucks here, you’re trying to argue the mass murdering mess of the USSR somehow didn’t also suck. Whataboutism won’t help you.

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              Your analysis of USSR is it is somehow uniquely evil mass murdering where everyone lived in a shithole while thats not true.

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    Soviet Union was also a collection of many countries too. If you added all the former USSR countries medal tallies up over the 35 years, I wonder what if it would be closer. Also it shouldn’t be forgotten that other countries have got a lot better during that time and the USSR was also big into doping.

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      I wonder what if it would be closer

      Yup they are almost similar

      Every country was in doping so I dont understand the point of singling out USSR

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      Gotta be a troll. Look at their profile. They’re wishing the USSR had never fallen and praising lenin. Maybe they got lost from .ml?

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        Anyone from 3rd world who is suffering from american menace wishes that USSR had never fallen, we felt safe atleast lol. Not to mention USSR was strong ally of my country and supported us in a war when USA sided with the enemy.

        And now the shit USA is doing in cuba and venezuela, threatening annexation of greenland makes it even more evident.

        Only westerns and americans are taught to brainlessly hate the USSR.

        I absolutely admire lenin, any sane person would. (Except if you are brainwashed amrikkkan or european that is)

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          Did you know Lenin invaded other countries? Trump is bat shit crazy for the idea of invading Greenland. Lenin actually invaded countries:

          Poland

          Azerbaijan

          Armenia

          Georgia

          Ukraine

          Belarus

          Turkestan (along with other areas)

          Estonia

          Latvia

          Lithuania

          Also, he heavily censored the press and heavily censored free speech.

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              All of them were invaded by Lenin, not all of them succeeded. 4 to 10 million people died as a result of Lenin’s actions. He is one of the great evils in world history.

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            Lenin didnt invade any of those. He favored exporting revolution, workers of those nations established soviet republic themselves and later joined USSR. If Lenin was invader he wouldnt have preserved their different identity. I dont care about free speech, its bourgeoisie bullshit propaganda to keep masses as sheep

            Lenin is one the greatest men in history.

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    12 days ago

    It’s a miracle how a shot of hormones in your ass can impact your performance.