If you think I’m denigrating these heroes, It’s the 2nd fools who imagine that the problem was their ideals, their organization, or their commitment that failed. Because it couldn’t have been the guns.

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    I don’t think people realize how fantastically destructive the US army could be on a civilian resistance. It would be an absolute slaughter with mid air bursting rounds killing and entire room full of people once they breach a window.

    Drone surveillance with no where to run or hide. Complete air superiority. Death would rain down constantly. The weapons of war are truly perverse. Think of the horror of cluster bombs with thousands of bomblets going off at once and hundreds later on for the next ten years randomly killing and maiming people.

    To even suggest such horrors is beyond disgusting yet we have a President gleefully suggesting turning the army on his fellow countrymen.

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        For sure, biggest arms dealer providing four times more weapons than the next biggest supplier (France I think).

        Look at it this way, it is estimated that US sanctions alone caused roughly 500k more deaths than normal every year over the last 50 years. That is 25 million dead just because we don’t like other countries policies.

        I don’t think there is enough time in the rest my life to cite every atrocity the US has committed since its inception. That is not even leaving time to actually think about them, just listing them all. It is pretty wild to think about.

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          And sad. Deeply sad. I’m sorry we had to live during such interesting times, but I’m glad for your clear-eyed perspective.

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    Imagine how much worse it would be if they didn’t have to worry about the citizens having guns to defend themselves with.

    Less protection for ourselves isn’t going to make the police chill out, I feel like people don’t understand that.

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      Memes often aren’t actually pictures of the thing they represent. That’s why we put labels on them to denote who the characters are.

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      Yep, this is what happens when authoritarians don’t think you have a gun.

      Peretti was getting pistol whipped before they saw his gun.

      If he had a rifle instead, they wouldn’t have escalated to violence because that’s a visual deterrent. By the time they knew he was carrying a CCW they’d already escalated past the point they felt they could walk away. It’s not a visual deterrent to prevent conflict, it can only be used for deadly force during a conflict.

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        Which is exactly why open carry was vilified during the black panthers rise to popularity, so that they could disarm the minorities and largely leading to where we are today

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      Violent aggressors only respond to force. A unified front can be a show of force. Non-Violent protest does not mean peaceful. Sabotage is non-violent. Destruction of the tools of the oppressed is non-violent. Regardless of what the law says, property damage is not a violent act.