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    The more we talk about that, the less we talk about how the President is a pedophile rapist, human trafficker, and murderer.

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      There are things more important sometimes.

      But yes, the child trafficking US president deserves to be thrown in jail for life.

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        more important

        Idk if the Epstein files are more important than the Venezuela invasion, literally. But I think it’s more foundationally important.

        What I mean by this is that the Epstein files show definitively that trump is a criminal with evidence of child rape and whatever other financial crimes. This means he is an illegitimately elected president, should never have been allowed to assume office legally and should be in prison. The evidence is in the Epstein files.

        If this is true, which it is, the decisions he’s been making, including Venezuela should never have happened.

        By law the Epstein files were supposed to be released, and they haven’t been. The DOJ and trump are hiding the evidence. Rule of law and our DOJ aren’t working as designed.

        Personally I think the Epstein fiasco is still the most important as it means trump shouldn’t even be here doing all this stuff right now.

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          The Pam Bondi bribery scandal should have been enough to make both ineligible for office even before his first term.

          However, it seems the lesson US society collectively learned from Watergate is that the executive should be immune from prosecution.

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          Trump being a criminal pedo was coming knowledge and it didn’t stop him from getting elected because Americans are too fucking stupid to know any better.

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      We’re not supposed to talk about the US kidnapping a leader of a sovereign nation?

      I think we can walk and chew gum.

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      …con man, misogynist, fat piece of shit, failed businessman, racist, deathly sick, fraudster, incontinent, criminal… yes, each time he adds a new adjective describing his actions or how disgusting of a person he is we talk less about the previous.

      Maybe we just start requiring “etc.” on any list.

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      Redirecting every criticism to some other thing is exactly how flooding the zone is supposed to work.

      Well done.

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      So oppressed with the Epstein files that well do absolutely knowing you want us to ignore what is happening now. The us invaded a sovereign country and is taking it over.

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      From now on, I’m calling the paedophile in chief the Turbulent Priest. Maybe someone will solve it.

      On the plus side, this fucker has given me a reason to live. I am now determined to outlive him out of spite.

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    No justification to attack a sovereign nation

    Maduro and Trump are friends

    Maduro gets to escape his country and save face instead of being assassinated or executed.

    Trump gets to manufacture a conflict so he can start martial law and become a dictator, and to distract from us learning he came inside little girls.

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    If the US faces no consequences for the invasion of Venezuela, experts believe it could embolden other countries to carry out operations which may contravene international law.

    “The most obvious consequence is that China will take the opportunity to invade Taiwan,” Robertson said. “This is the most appropriate time for it to do so, bolstered by the precedent of Trump’s invasion of Venezuela and of course his appeasement of Russia in its invasion of Ukraine. In fact, I would say that Trump’s invasion of Venezuela is the crime of aggression, the same crime Putin has committed by invading Ukraine.”

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      funny how this works - the media has an opportunity to call out the US for being a piece of shit and yet they pivot to “yeah but what if (insert communist nation here)”

      capitalism will do anything to keep it from criticizing itself.

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        If only you read as far as the 4th paragraph of the article…

        The experts the Guardian spoke to agreed that the US is likely to have violated the terms of the UN charter, which was signed in October 1945 and designed to prevent another conflict on the scale of the second world war. A central provision of this agreement – known as article 2(4) – rules that states must refrain from using military force against other countries and must respect their sovereignty.

        Geoffrey Robertson KC, a founding head of Doughty Street Chambers and a former president of the UN war crimes court in Sierra Leone, said the attack on Venezuela was contrary to article 2(4) of the charter. “The reality is that America is in breach of the United Nations charter,” he added. “It has committed the crime of aggression, which the court at Nuremberg described as the supreme crime, it’s the worst crime of all.”

        Elvira Domínguez-Redondo, a professor of international law at Kingston University, described the operation as a “crime of aggression and unlawful use of force against another country”. Susan Breau, a professor of international law and a senior associate research fellow at the Institute of Advanced Legal Studies, agreed that the attack could have only been considered lawful if the US had a resolution from the UN security council or was acting in self-defence. “There is just no evidence whatsoever on either of those fronts,” Breau said.

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          And yet it’s only “likely”. No one ever knows what our laws are. It’s always a fucking guess. Did he break the law? I don’t know. Probably. I think? Who knows. Well, those guys seem to know. But do they really?? Sounds suspicious.

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        Seriously. “The US doing this horrific evil thing might allow China to do a bad thing in the future!”

        How about “the US is a horrible evil country that has done this horrible evil thing.”

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          The same person quoted also said that, in this article.

          Geoffrey Robertson KC, a founding head of Doughty Street Chambers and a former president of the UN war crimes court in Sierra Leone, said the attack on Venezuela was contrary to article 2(4) of the charter. “The reality is that America is in breach of the United Nations charter,” he added. “It has committed the crime of aggression, which the court at Nuremberg described as the supreme crime, it’s the worst crime of all.”

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      The only country who might be emboldened by this is the fucking US itself, to start yet another conflict, just like they always do.

      Oh no the country that hasn’t even been involved in a conflict in 50 years might invade!1! Never mind the country that’s been invading, bombing, couping, and backing terrorists and war criminals non-stop for like, most of its existence.

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    I’m gunna be honest: I don’t really give a fuck if it was legal or not; it was wrong. It’s wrong to mutate the histories, identities, and fates of other nations and it always opens a portal to new monsters. Venezuala’s problems are Venezuala’s to solve and grow and learn from. If Canada sent JTF-2 to kidnap Trump and his inner inner circle while they’re visiting Africa or some shit, pretty sure every fucking American would be upset about that, and most Canadians, though momentarily relieved, would fear the reckoning. The US’s leadership is foolish to not fear the reckoning because they think they’re untouchable. Foolish. At this point it would be a “who shot Mr Burns” situation.

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      Venezuela’s problems aren’t even Venezuela’s to solvd, their problem is an economic embargo by the USA, how are they supposed to solve that?

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    The pretext Trump used for the war was that Venezuela is flooding the US with fentanyl.

    Venezuela doesn’t produce fent and it’s not a significant trans-shipment source. The actual sources are US pharma companies and China.

    I believe that international law frowns on starting imperialist wars of aggression on the basis of lies. And, just as the war is an attempt to deflect attention from the Trump-Epstein files, so is the war on drugs lie a deflection from the real reason for the invasion, which is to enrich US oil companies.

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      Yes, they totally fucking suck. Now let’s talk about the real issue, our pedo prez just invaded a country, took the preseident and his wife and are now threatening to do that to a lot of other countries for their oil money. Can we focus on that right now?

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        One issue is the dems response is either positive or saying trump needed to let them vote to authorize, as the dems say they would have voted for it and are only upset for not telling congress not attacking another country. Just like when he attacked Iran.

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        Ah yes. Let’s ideate on a person we have no control or influence over instead of people in political power whom we do have a degree of influence over. Surely spinning our tires over how bad Trump is instead of focusing pressure on, at least allegedly, politically aligned individuals we might be able to make demands of.

        Shouting into the void about ‘Trump’ bad instead of focusing criticism where it might make a difference is a better strategy.

        We get it. “Orange man bad”, but Schumer’s and Jefferies basically supporting this is actually worse because they are litterally the only tools we have at our disposal to stop him.

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      They’re going to ask politely for a vote in Congress to give Trump permission to be fascist. And when the request for the vote is ignored, they’re going to diligently line up to support the next NDAA funding measure that made this criminal act possible while shaking their heads to let you know they don’t like how it is being used.

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        That seems to be the thrust of their criticism. No problem with the action, simply disappointed that he didn’t ask for permission.

        Utterly worthless, and the both of them need to be replaced, 9 months ago when they demonstrated their inability to meet the moment

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      Are you saying…right now…that the BIRD BIRD BIRD! BIRD IS THE WORD! BABABABA BIRD BIRD BIRD, BIRD IS THE WORD!!!