Another take on this :Trump watched as girl’s newborn was murdered & dumped in lake, Epstein document says
While I’m not a fan of the president, I am interested in the veracity of the claim, or the supposed investigation that cleared him of suspicion. I wouldn’t be shocked if he did do it, but want to have more supporting facts.
It doesn’t really seem like the kind of thing he would be around for. He has others do the dirty work, and thinks it’s below him to just be around people he isn’t presently takening advantage of (as in, unless he was doing her at the time, why would he be there). Doesn’t mean there wasn’t some strange combination of events that caused him to be there, and I can’t see him caring one way or another about the baby, so he would totally be aware of it and not care.
Here’s probably what happened, because it fits Trump and is incredibly dark:
He had sex with a pregnant 13 yo that was being sex trafficked - he accidentally shock induced birth through rough sex (which is actually common) - and then expected another person to handle it (which was her “uncle” + Epstein).
Sounds plausible and very likely given that Epstein was into enabling these horrors to gain influence over these people. He’d likely be complicit in the worst crimes imaginable if it meant gaining an advantage over his clientele.
Somehow, everytime something of the Epstein files comes out, it’s always so much worse than we imagined.
I wonder how many bodies are buried, literally
Republicans have a Pedophilia problem
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican South Carolina Rep. RJ May of Lexington was charged in July 2025 with ten counts of distributing sexual abuse material involving children. He faces 20 years in federal prison and a $250,000 fine.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl. Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Dennis Hastert served as Republican Speaker of the House (so, 3rd in line for the Presidency) for all 8 years of W. Bush’s two terms. He also sexually molested at least 5 boys when he was a HS wrestling coach, all of them underage with the youngest victim being 14. The victims only finally saw justice when Hastert was caught by the FBI trying to falsify payments for hush money.
Donald Trump walked into Miss Teen USA change rooms with girls as young as 14 changing. 26 women have spoken publicly about Trump’s pattern of sexual assault. In 2023, he was found legally liable for the rape of E. Jean Carroll by unanimous jury.
Wow, the list just kept going. And going. Is it safe to say if you’re a Republican you’re a baddie?
Saving this for the Republican-infested dinner table later today, thanks
So in addition to, I’d say at least a dozen abortions he caused, he also participated in murdering a baby? Fucking serial baby killer.
Abortions? With all that adultery and raping, he can’t have gotten away from pregnancies and STDs.
Not wanting to say you’re wrong, but do you have any sources on that he caused abortions as well?
Family values…
Aaaand Americans do absolutely nothing about this obscenity.
Join your military so you can go crush the regime? That’s how the world solves its dictator problems. Other countries agree to come kill a lot of them and cripple their ability to express power. Then your country can power broker after the war, advance all their interests, start a culture of exceptionalism to compensate for their looted wealth. Then later on will find out your country started importing Americans as they sold company/state secrets left and right for their own safe passage. .ow they’re slowly starting groups that spread hyper-capitalist ideology through out your police departments and draw in the heads of industry in your country. They advance their power by demonizing your most vulnerable groups and steadily gain a diseased momentum in your politics. No matter how much you point it out to others… no one understands you. They’ve slowly deamonized critical thinking and history lessons start to leave out more and more context so you can’t actually talk to other members of your country about what’s happening because their literal ability to interpret and evaluate what is happening has been specifically crippled. Now you’re intellectually alone, in physical danger from persecution, and none of it was your fault because you genuinely tried to highlight the downfall around you and push movements to change the pattern.
Then when you go online you realize pathetically sad people exist everywhere…and they’re all prepared to watch your country burn while high fiving each other for “Not being you”.
There are two types of Americans:
“I didn’t vote for this pedophile, so it’s not my problem to deal with. I’m already doing a lot by making all these posts slamming the government”
And
“I didn’t know he might be a rapist, that’s probably just the extreme left witch hunt. And I still believe he will make America great again.”
IKR. They spend their existence lecturing the rest of the world about ‘muh democracy’ and ‘muh constitution’ but when push comes to shove they won’t do shit to the tyrants in charge.
You know the people who ‘lecture the rest of the world about muh democracy’ are billonares, and the people you’re asking to solve the problem are peasents and homeless people, right?
the people who ‘lecture the rest of the world about muh democracy’ are billonares.
First of all, no, no they’re not. I’m pretty sure there are no or very few billionaires on Reddit, and yet…
Second of all, even if this was true. So what? Like are you saying they are untouchable and the poor people who elected a rapist for President can’t do anything?
Don’t pretend like you don’t know what I’m saying, in order to get me to say what I’m saying.
Unless you’re saying that Americans are powerless to do anything, I literally don’t. Please explain.
Are you Canadian?
Because Lemmy allows user flair, I now have this guy tagged as “R U Canadian”
What does that have to do with anything??
And no, I’m not. Why do you keep asking that everyone?
Trying to change the topic?
You know the us is a democracy with more peasants and homeless people than billionares, right?
“democracy”
Are you Canadian?
Literally all of the people who do that are the ones supporting Trump
except the ones that try to do something about it get locked up and tried for a death penalty even though the evidence is mostly fabricated.
Who tried to do something and got locked up and tried for the death penalty with fabricated evidence?
Not too keen on polluting the lake further, but…
The fish would swim away when they see and smell the cheeseburgers seeping out.
Drop him into Lake Superior. Can’t pollute the lake if the body can’t decompose, which they can’t at the bottom of Lake Superior
Yeah, but then he’s just … Down there. Poor lake doesn’t deserve that.
Down there touching our Earth too! 🤢
I talked to him for about 20 or 30 minutes about my being sex trafficked by my uncle and Jeffrey Epstein in 1984 while I was 13 and [pregnant] …
Hmm, this really pushes the timeline of the Trump-Epstein friendship back some years. In this 2002 New York Magazine interview, he says that he’s known Epstein for 15 years (circa. 1987). But this murder happened in 1984, how long had they actually known each other?
This happened before he met Ghislaine and well before all documented abuse victims.
Nothing seems credible. They waited almost 40 years, right before the 2020 election, to say something. And take no efforts to gather corroborating evidence.
Ehh, we don’t know because where is that 20 minute conversation she had with a detective documented? Also, if the intention was to harm Trump’s image or whatnot, wouldn’t a media circus be where to go with the story?
They waited almost 40 years
This should never be a convincing factor for you. Indeed, this is NORMAL HUMAN BEHAVIOUR. I think that people who make a big deal about it are perfectly aware of that, too.
Was it his spawn with Satan?
This is going to be so high, that the payout will be almost nothing.
Everything he accuses others of doing he has done. So all the “post-birth abortion” strawmen had to come from somewhere…there it is.
I’m actually pretty surprised by the baby murder
Why would you be surprised about anything from these Psychopaths? I wouldn’t have been surprised if they got rid of the evidence by eating the baby.
im not surprised by anything at this point. he is an evil piece of shit. We’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the awful shit he’s probably done.
Not expecting it but not surprised. The man only considers the value of a person’s life in what they can do for them.
It would be easier to count who didn’t.
I mean, most of us
Half this fucking country believes raping children and murdering newborn babies is okay as long as a republican is doing it.
There is no justice.
They made sure of that.
All there can ever even POSSIBLY be now is vengeance.
All it will take is the right people in the right places doing the right thing just ONCE for each of them.
But I know better than to hope.
They don’t believe the witnesses or the “liberal media”, and we’ve all heard “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” since we were tykes.
But let’s say you’re right: less than 30% of voters are R (or D), so less than a third are pro rape and pro murder. NOT TOO SHABBY, see there’s always a silver lining.
I hope you forgot the /s
Does anyone remember when it was just Trump blowing Bill Clinton and/or a horse? Those were the days.
I’m going to follow MAGAs lead, and choose to believe it ALL, and demand nothing less than DEATH in return.
This show stopped making sense years ago. Too many hack writers, too many crazy ideas.
The plot armor is insane too
We had the sense not to pick up the second season but for some idiotic reason we were sold the third.
Every day I wonder what the US would look like now if Trump was leaving the WH in 2025
I wonder how it would look if he’d never gotten into it in the first place. He was always a joke but I remember when the joke was funny. (Although we would have been horrified if we knew what he’d been doing.)
I want to know what would have happened if he was assassinated right before the national convention
My assumption would be President JD Vance. I think he’d barely just chosen him at the time?
He hadn’t announced any choice yet
Sure, but now there is actual evidence of things
Pro life MAGAts about to reach a whole new level of disingenuous whataboutisms
The baby was born already. They couldn’t give two shits what happened to it.
Must be one of those “post birth abortions” Trump ranted about on the campaign trail.
“Every accusation is a confession.” This statement gets more true by the hour.
“Every accusation is a confession”
With all the shit Q-Anon claimed in mind,
I would not be surprised at all if it turned out the Republican party has a child rape dungeon under a pizza parlor somewhere.
Republicans only care about the pre-born*. Pre-school kids can get fucked.
*They don’t really care about the pre-born.
Pre-school kids can get fucked.
And some take that literally.
Inshallah, the will of God!
If anyone else was linked or even hinted at being linked to something like this, they’d be in prison before you could say howdy there.
That’s not true. You need credible evidence that something illegal happened. An uncorroborated report almost 40 years after the incident, made just weeks before the 2020 election is not credible or useful for prosecution.
I try to live my life so if anyone claimed i murdered babies people would react with incredulity, not guillotine images.
Nobody wants him locked up now who didn’t want him locked up before this report was released.
Not true, there are dozens of people who changed their mind, dozens!
It’s like each newly revealed crime against humanity can only permanently lose him a single maga influencer or high profile republican.
And I wish it weren’t so, but I bet he has enough in his history to lose them all.
Unfortunately the lesson that needs to be learned, that trumpers shouldn’t just move on to supporting Vance doing the same evil shit but without the rap sheet and the dementia, probably isn’t going to happen.
And if it was a dem, republicans wouldn’t stop crying about that for years.
We’re still hearing about hunter bidens laptop. I’m surprised they finally shut up about Obamas tan suit.
STARBUCKS WHILE SALUTING AND MARINE HOLDING THE UMBRELLA!
But baby murder and raping 13-yo is fine if it’s Trump. Ffs
Tan suit.
He put his feet on the desk.
He likes Dijon mustard.
And now I’m making a sandwich JUST for the Dijon mustard.
There’s (grey) POUPON everything!
And he likes arugula!
Buttery males too.
They’d break their fingers clutching their pearls.
Well yeah obviously; don’t you know that as long as it’s a REPUBLICAN who is raping pregnant children and murdering newborn infants, that’s what makes it okay?
APPARENTLY??? SOMEHOW???
Decades.
I mean, neither would I. They’d be pretty justified in that scenario.
The man who demonizes innocent trans peoples as a threat to society is literally a child murderer.
And pedophile sex trafficker and serial rapist.
