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    People use that word wrong. If it’s paid after the service is provided, it’s a tip. If it’s paid before, then it’s a bribe

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      Its still paid after but you can see the tip first and deny it if it’s not to your liking.

      *I don’t agree with tipping culture and how disgusting it has gotten but just being pedantic I guess

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    Why not invest a little time in an air compressor and a refillable can?

    You can still add the shitty chemicals from bulk.

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      This is someone huffing cans, they’re not in a position to be setting up their own drug enterprise

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        Look if you’re buying this many you’re at least a hobbyist and should take the time to learn how the sausage is made.

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          Some more than others, and I believe some don’t at all?

          I’ve used commercially available stuff in Canada before and it was god awful. I avoided cleaning anything that wasn’t absolutely coated in dust simply because it left a film of bitter on everything. Which doesn’t sound terrible except you don’t realize how often you touch a surface then your face/mouth.

          I’ve also used “bulk” stuff in an enterprise setting, albeit in the US, and there was literally no bittering as far as I could tell. Granted, I wasn’t abusing it to get high or anything so maybe the tech has just come far enough to not need to make the room itself bitter, but it seemed like there wasn’t anything.

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          They do, just some people don’t care and are happy enough to deal with that and get the high off it. I’m not sure it’s a good high but y’know I guess whatever.

          I feel like you can get better highs for cheaper, I don’t really know why people choose to inhale that shit but they do.

          If you want to get high off of a gas I’d say it’s way way waaaaaY safer to just inhale nitrous oxide (whippits), It won’t be the same high but it’s probably better overall, can’t say I’ve ever huffed canned air though so can’t do a true comparison.

          Just the stuff in canned air is so much worse for your body and brain.

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            In small quantities nitrous could accidentally be good for some people, it has anti-depressant properties, although self medication is not ideal and can be habit forming in these circumstances. I’ve seen my own cobwebs blown away by dental surgeries, I’ve also seen friends go down the drain entirely, their backseats full of empty canisters.

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      There’s also electric air blowers now that are prett6 great. My wolfbox blower is shockingly powerful.

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    What a waste. $15 air compressor for blowing up air beds does a better job, with no pollution

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      Compressed air. Used to clean electronics. You can also use it to get high (which is what is being implied is happening here) with some very serious side effects.

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        I had an old, dusty laptop that needed some serious cleaning recently, so I went to the store to buy one of these. Was rather surprised that they’d make me go to the counter and show my ID before allowing me to purchase one, but now I know why.

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        So more likely compressed nitrogen or something. I can’t see people getting high on air.

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          They get high on the propellant (usually difluoroethane), basically, enhanced by hypoxia

          Nitrous oxide (“whippits”) is a whole other thing that is very much a grey market drug dealer “this should probably just explicitly be legal at this point because the hoops people jump through are kind of silly”. Like if you’re into cooking nitrous oxide chargers are a valid thing to own for making whipped cream and such so headshops often stock huge tanks under the guise of “for culinary use only”, just like how people only use bongs for tobacco, right

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            I got a restaurant I worked at to buy a tank of N2O for staff.

            The kitchen staff kept huffing my beer gas (N2 & CO) despite multiple warnings and explanations that it wasnt getting them high, just suffocating them. Twice I found a guys passed out in the walk in, still holding the still running line. The gas is heavier than air, so it pools on the ground, and it was a small walk in that didnt cycle often, so this was really dangerous.

            I managed to convince the owner that buying a N2O tank for $300 and occasionally ‘forgetting’ to lock it up was way cheaper than the costs associated with a staff member dieing on premises, especially considering the health dept would almost surely force us to replace our old system and put in air testers and stuff.

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          Compressed air is about 0% air, you’re correct in that, but nitrogen is a part of air so it’s not it. It’s butane, propane or other less flamable but worse shit, afaik

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    And he’s gonna be… HIGH, as a kite by then.

    NGL, I’d buy that much at Costco just to have on hand and not have to buy duster for a while until I figured I could just use something like a air matress filler pump.

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      At that point just buy a a 5lb CO2 tank. That’s what I use in my work van. It’s a bit more expensive upfront but it’ll last longer, it’s refillable, higher pressure, and the cost of refills makes it cheaper per pound of gas. If you want to get really fancy then you also put a regulator on it so you aren’t dusting as 700 PSI but that’s optional. Plenty of my coworkers just tap straight off the tank.

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    I hope anyone who does these dusters realizes you can get whip it’s on Amazon for like 20 bucks, then a cracker for a other 20, and then they won’t be absolutely destroying themselves and their lungs. I also hate all the misinformation surrounding nitrous, fucking dentists use it for fucks sake, shits safe as long as you don’t abuse it.

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      I also hate all the misinformation surrounding fentanyl, fucking surgeons use it for fucks sake, shits safe as long as you don’t abuse it.

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        Had a minor surgery earlier this year. They gave me fentanyl as the drug to put me under. Was hella surprised about it. Also I see why people love that shit so much.

        But also for fentanyl’s danger, I think it comes down to how small a dose you need to hit the LD50/50 point is so low that you can hit it by accident without even trying. Street drugs are also being laced with Fentanyl and not in safe / well regulated doses. If you had a lab grade supplier, it’d probably be safer / easier to do safely…but I don’t think that’s what people are doing…

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          Are you sure the fentanyl wasn’t supplemental to something else like propofol? It’s not used for anesthesia induction before surgery AFAIK, just pain relief afterwards. If the IV burned a little when they pushed the plunger down on a syringe full of milky fluid, that was propofol.

          But I can see an anesthesiologist saying something like, “We’re going to put you under now. We’ll give you fentanyl so you won’t be in pain when you wake up.”

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            I’m not sure.

            I want to say they gave me two stages of anesthetic, but I also think fentanyl was the first of the two stages (counter to what you’re saying should have happened). But also, I’m at best an amateur at chemistry; even less when it comes to medicine. That said, reasonably certain what they gave me was not milky nor did it burn going in (you’ll have to excuse me if I misremember any deets, it was my first time going under and I was irrationally nervous about it)

            I could have some things mixed up, but it did stand out in my mind that they used fentanyl (and I remember how fuckin’ nice it felt when they threw it in my veins). But that’s how I remember it.

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              I don’t know what order they should have been given in. Maybe the fentanyl was first? Did your tongue just go numb and your vision go dark for a few seconds before you passed out or did it feel like an angel tossed you into a zero gravity hot tub and instantly jerked you off?

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                Lmao, love those descriptions.

                It was more the second one (tho I think the dose was small enough to miss the full jerked off effect).

                But it also wasn’t a full “being put under” (they said they were aiming for a full under situation, but that they really just needed to “turn off” my sensitivity in some sensitive spots), and so I have at least a fuzzy memory of everything that happened along the way.

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        I was once given cocaine eye drops in a hospital though (it’s a combined vasoconstrictor and analgesic, which makes it good for facial injuries that tend to hurt and swell/bleed a lot). Just because something can have a clinical use case doesn’t make it safe for anyone to use it regularly.

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        I also hate all the misinformation surrounding Ivermectin, horse vets use it for horses’ sake, shits safe as long as you don’t abuse it.

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          True, fentanyl might kill you while nitrous will just put you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. With poor fine motor so even gooning won’t be the same.

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      Don’t even bother with crackers, they suck. Just buy a 1L+ tank and some big balloons from Amazon.

      Also, don’t do it every day, or even every other day. You will fuck up your vitamin B12 reserves and you’ll quickly discover what happens. Having a binge once a week is much better for you than a couple balloons every day.

      I’d also point out ripping nitrous hits out of balloons is most definitely abuse. Ain’t nobody out there using a regulator and metering their nitrous intake like medical usage.

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        You’re metering it to one punch balloon every couple minutes! And when you wake up, you have another. It’s self-regulating.

        I would like to say I’m 10+ years out from the days I’d drive down to Bristol PA and pick up two or three 20 pound tanks from some random fire safety place. Definitely abusable, and easily so. We’d pound a 5h energy and Gatorade after and you’re right as rain, which is not good, needs to be harder to feel fine after.

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      Chronic use can really fuck people up though. Nitrous oxidizes b12 in the blood stream destroying it and that can lead to neurological issues.

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      Only destroying their cerebellum. Who needs it?

      Recreational use of nitrous oxide (N2O) has increased rapidly in recent years and is now the second most commonly used recreational drug among young people in the UK. There has been a corresponding rise in cases of nitrous oxide-induced subacute combined degeneration of the cord (N2O-SACD), a pattern of myeloneuropathy usually associated with severe vitamin B12 deficiency. This can cause serious and permanent disability in young people

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        The only recreational use of N2O I know of is to add a tank of it in a car and pipe it into the fuel mixture.
        And even that seems kinda snake-oily to me.

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      finally made a lemmy account just to downvote you. don’t fucking do whippets they can paralyze you for life. I’ve seen it. And dentists use it because they have years of training and proper equipment and they understand the risks (unlike you clearly).

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        A once a year huff at your favorite music festival is fine but yeah, two of my friends started having trouble walking and while another friend and me realized our hearts were doing weird stuff and quite that stuff. Turns out it oxidizes the b12 in your blood stream. They started getting b12 injections but spending an afternoon huffing destroys all the b12 in an injection. Better to quit.

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      People doing duster are not usually the same people doing nitrous. In my years of working in a hospital, duster addicts were the worst of the drug addicts mentally and physically.

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    Fuck I think if I really couldn’t control myself I’d actually rather just do hard drugs, at least they don’t have bitterant and probably have a lower death rate.