• Switorik@lemmy.zip
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    In guessing the left is Proton but those icons are about as bad as googles.

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      They might have actually somehow managed to come up with worse logos than Google uses. I assume the top one is an email app, the bottom left is a file manager, and bottom centre is a password manager? But I’m less than certain about those, and everything else is a complete mystery.

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        From top left to bottom right, horizontal first:

        • Email
        • Password Manager
        • Calendar
        • VPN
        • Drive
        • Authenticator
        • Mascot for their LLM

        The only ones that are a bit ambiguous are the Password Manager and the VPN logos imo

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          • Napkins

          • Square turned sideways

          • Square not turned sideways

          • Triangle

          • Folder

          • Half-eaten donut hanging on a doorknob

          • Cat

          How was I supposed to infer the meaning of those?

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            • an envelope but like, without the top
            • ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
            • calendars are kind of this shape and this has 31, a day of the month in it
            • ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
            • folder, it’s their drive app, where you keep files and folders. This one’s actually not that bad.
            • the keyhole is used in damn near every password manager, and when it’s not a key it’s a shield of some sort.
            • ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            (This whole reply is mostly /s)

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        Its amazing, in an era where our phones have higher res than monitors did 20 years ago, icons have less detail.

        Like show a damn calendar for the calendar icon. Hell, the ANSI emoji would be better. 📆

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      i trust them more than google. they’ve been a little sketchy lately (bc of the ai stuff, not the ceos political stuff) but at least only one entity has my data this way. I’d rather self-host but i can’t rn.

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        they’ve been known to collaborate with governments and have been accused of forcing traffic through an Israeli contractor. i can’t trust them.

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    Real privacy starts when you check app permissions and stop giving flashlight apps your location.

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    It’s hilarious that OP thought going full in o proton is the other end of the “I love privacy” spectrum. How the fuck are you here on lemmy and that uneducated and ignorant on all this? These are two people a couple of steps away from each other on one end, not even close to what the meme actually is. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this was rage bait, because it’s dumb enough to be that. Or a proton shill, which definitely exists here.

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    I want another person with neck beard disgusted by both of them using Tor, I2P, Qubes, and GrapheneOS

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    No matter who someone is, don’t give them all of your personal property.

    I use Protonmail from Proton. That’s it.

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        I only use one subscription service in my life and it’s email from proton. I once knew a sysadmin who said that self-hosting email is a full-time job. So I just pay for my email with a reputable company and have my own domain name attached. His comment scared me off for good. But other people have said it’s not that hard. Please write me your experience , ok?

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        I spent a couple hours setting up my accounts and keys and syncing them across devices so that I could access my secure email from any of them, importing them into K9 and thunderbird and publishing my public keys to a keyserver. Once I verified it was all working I realised that no one else I know uses PGP with email and it was a giant waste of time

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        I think it’s a fair point. Anyone could be either person so no one instance of this is directly offensive, but I agree memes like this seem to routinely put down women.

        I don’t think op is pissing and shitting and crying over it, there’s just no place to talk about it other than the meme itself. Anyone could criticise your comment in the same way, and it’s just a strawman argument.

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      • Third party service run by corpos who pinky promise not to harvest any of your data

      • In-app tool that doesn’t cache your client-side data

      Is the woman the negative side on this?

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          I genuinely wonder what people think they’re using a VPN for. Do they think they’ve outwitted a trillion dollars in surveillance with an $8/mo subscription service?

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            A VPN is part of a toolset. No tool alone is enough, and they only really work for some porpoises.

            Some people think it is enough. Some people think chrome incognito is enough. Some people are wrong.

            I’m any case, privacy is a spectrum. I can’t be untraceable by state agents, but I can avoid a lot of non targeted spying.

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              I’m any case, privacy is a spectrum. I can’t be untraceable by state agents, but I can avoid a lot of non targeted spying.

              Absolutely. But then, as often as not, just using the browser feature that doesn’t cache client side data is enough.

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                The only thing that does is prevents other people who have physical access to the computer from seeing your gross browsing habits though…which I guess might be enough for many.

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            Ummm yes I am betting people think that. Are they wrong? It makes sense that Google could do that if they really wanted to, but I doubt they do pretty much anything that doesn’t have a profit motive.

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      What? I always thought the guy was the negative side! The woman is the reasonable normie, the guy is the weirdo tinfoil hat nerd!

      What even are all those crappy icons?

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        This meme format is inherently sexist. Anytime you have a meme format that has both a man and a woman on it, and one side is going to be the “bad” side, it’s always going to bring out the biases of whoever is creating it.

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          1 Semantics, but that doesn’t sound “inherently” sexist to me.

          2 I’m pretty sure it just makes more comedic sense to put the unexpected interpretation on the right (or women’s side), so the “bad side” is different depending on the topic. I personally see this meme more often with the man being a surface level fan of something with the women being unexpectedly deep into the fandom. Like, among the earliest known edits (according to knowyourmeme) is the man just liking sports games with the women liking soulslikes.

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          They are literally just looking at each other. If anything she has a more annoyed look on her face. He’s thirsty af and shes rolling her eyes at him.

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      i think I’ve seen a lot of cases when it’s the other way round.

      although if we do the statistics it’ll likely show a bias.

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          If it were the other way around, would it be sexist?

          Is it required that any meme with a “good” and “bad” side have no demographic distinction between the sides?

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            It’s not that this one example is like this, it’s that it seems to always be one way around and not the other, with this meme format

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            Yes, it would still be sexist if it were the other way around. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a meme with this format which didn’t have a “good” and “bad” side.

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              I’m genuinely curious what you’d think if they were both thin white straight-coded average-height women but with different hair color.

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                Well, it would be difficult for a format like that to bring out the biases of meme creators.

                One of the reasons this meme format is problematic is that this is a screenshot from “500 Days of Summer” which was a film that was wildly misunderstood by misogynists. The entire point of the film is to show the perspective of the male character, which villainizes the female character when she breaks his heart when she dumps him. But by the end of the movie the viewer is supposed to realize that she did nothing wrong and just wasn’t as in to him as he was into her.

                Incels and misogynists everywhere misunderstood the hell out of the themes and message. So it’s not a great movie to take a meme format from.

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    Design brief: Make them look like the google suite but purple. The harder it is to work out what the app does from the logo, the better.

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      Meh…the mail, calendar and drive icons are easily recognizable for what they do. The others are easily recognizable and distinguishable from each other, although their function definitely is less clear from the visuals of the icon. This is true for most apps by far though, not just google and proton. Most icons by far makes the company behind it identifiable, not the function it performs.

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        Gotta disagree. At a glance they are all just purple blobs. Sure you can tell if you look closely, but you shouldn’t have to.

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          I disagree, you don’t have to look closely at all to get the function of several, unless you consider 1-2 seconds looking closely of course…

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            unless you consider 1-2 seconds looking closely of course…

            I do - It should be recognizable in a glance (milliseconds, not seconds). Maybe it sounds minor, but I work in design and let me tell you it makes a big difference.

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        Now that you’ve mentioned calendar I’m guessing it is the one with 31 on it? Honestly didn’t know what it was at first glance, thought it was maybe something to do with window management as it sorta looks like a browser window or something. Still don’t know how it is supposed to look like a calendar other than it having a 31 on it