He’s wearing a hat on a hat.
Hawaiian people should be in turn given a permission to explode some rockets over White House.
Should ask Texas residents living next to Starbase how that’s working out for them. I can sum it up, it’s not. You get what you voted for!
Well, I mean after the US annexed Hawaii by overthrowing their king and writing a special “it’s OK when we do it” law, doesn’t that mean they can do whatever they want?
That’s no surprise, the only thing Trump considers sacred is Trump.
Better not mess with sacred stuff in Hawaii. You could wake up with a tarantula crawling on your chest.
There do not appear to be large spiders in Hawaii.
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nice one
seriously, though, sailors took over rats and they killed all the birds and lots of the arthropods.
Sacred Hawaian Island
Broooo, who cares lol
People who aren’t pieces of shit
Bro, shut the fuck up
sacred Muslim/Islamist place
Demolish it
Sacred Christian place
Demolish it
A few days ago I was watching stars with a friend and every few minutes we would see satellite after satellite. Yeah that was distracting.
That’s mostly musk too: https://phys.org/news/2025-07-satellite-constellations-bright-threaten-astronomy.html
Same here, I would rarely see a satellite and mostly only during dusk. Two nights ago I was participating in a star gazing activity as par of a birthday party and it’s busy up there now
Yeah right?? It’s so crazy how many satellites there are nowadays.
We used to play with my friends when we were younger to spot them. Now it’s harder not to see one.
And the sad part is it’s going to get much worse probably.
Their future e-waste is now part of the view, just gotta accept it and hope the billboards up there aren’t developed in our lifetime.
Not much remains of them upon reentry. At least nothing that can be called e-waste.
I thought Kessler-syndrome was the real kicker, not greenhouse gasses.
LEO items can’t Kessler. They can barely keep themselves from falling back through the atmosphere.
they just aerosolize creating even faster global warming
Wouldn’t high-altitude metallic aerosols do the opposite?
unfortunately no. per my understanding the problem with starlink satellites burning up on re-entry are two fold:
- the aerosolized aluminum retains heat, not reflects it
- the aerosolized aluminum reacts with ozone, damaging a critical protective layer against the greenhouse effect
Dang, that sucks XD
Should have made their frames with zinc alloy instead!
The religious significance of an uninhabited island seems like a nothingburger compared to this:
Along with allowing Musk to rain schrapnel down near Mokumanamana, the FAA also granted SpaceX the ability to do so around Hawaii’s eight main islands — which are populated with American citizens
lol why did they emphasize that they are American citizens? So if these were non-Americans it would be fine I guess.
They mention that because people in the US are stupid enough to not understand that residents of Puerto Rico, Guam, Hawaii, and some other places are US citizens.
You joke, but this is how a lot of people actually think. It’s fucking gross.
It’s not about Americans, it’s about humans. I’m just quoting the article directly.
Ah, but those Americans are mostly Democrats so they aren’t really Americans and are gonna lose their citizenship and be deported soon anyway. /S
He’s a defiler. POS Star links are everywhere in the sky polluting the sky with streaks and dots for anyone interested in astronomy.
He’s a defiler.
That’s why you can’t let Zerg get to late game. Guessing he’s going defiler/hydra/lurker? Sounds like we need firebats so we can still do damage under dark swarm. He might counter with scourge/guardians so watch for a greater spire for a good attack timing.
The guy carrying tanks of napalm smoking a cigarette always gets to me 😁
Need a light?
tramping religious rights of locals is fine, but don’t you dare to touch christianity. Christian churches get tax exemptions etc. I’m an atheist but this is a glaring discriminatiin. You either disregard all religions or tiptoe around all of them there’s nothing in between
it’s time to accept that America is a Christian nation. it shouldn’t be, but we’re already getting Christian sharia laws, like women should be forced to give birth even if they die, or if the fetus is non viable.
there will be more sharia coming soon.
we should call those laws like that.
wait who doesn’t think that america is a Christian nation
Christianity is literally intertwined with like every visible level of the american government
It shouldn’t, it’s meant to be a secular democracy.
However, it is clearly a Christian theocratic state.
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Learning how under god was added in the 1950s was what made me finally start to question the Republican indoctrination my parents were under the spell of.
Destroying and damaging a religion’s sacred holy areas is not a really violation of the religious rights. However telling Catholic priests they should tell on pedophiles now that that’s violating religious rights.
What the deuce?
They must not have had Brady Bunch reruns in South Africa?
I think the Pelekais will want to file a countersuit against the U.S. Government in response to this, and try to force an impeachment vote in the House of Representations against Donald Trump.
a remote and uninhabited island located 400 miles from Honolulu
Mokumanamana sits at the boundary between “‘pō,’ the darkness, and ‘au,’ the light.” When a Native Hawaiian dies, their soul travels up near Mokumanamana, and after meeting their ancestors there, they potentially get to advance into the great beyond with them in the dark waters west of the island.
okey-doke.
So, uninhabited (at this point means not viable for habitation) and it’s a religious site that probably no one goes on a pilgrimage to? Fuckit.
edit: so the people using the downvote button as a disagree button:
What’s the problem? If we are going to do this space shit we need places to drop the litter, what’s wrong with this place? Is it just because it’s Musk and Trump? I’m no fan of either but wouldn’t it be better to have this SpaceX trash out in the Pacific instead of off the coast of South Texas where millions of US and Mexican citizens live?
Uninhabited islands are not uninhabitable and the only value of a place is not whether people can live on it. The northwestern Hawaiian islands are a marine sanctuary valued even though barely anyone goes there. This argument is like saying the deep Everglades are unexploited, so we might as well dump our trash there.
What the fuck? They are literally dumping this shit in the Gulf of Mexico RIGHT NOW.
Why is this shitty little island out in the middle of nowhere a problem?!
You are steadfastly dedicated to not getting the point while simultaneously whining about downvotes. Have an angry day where you think everyone else is the problem.
Yeah, that’s what I’m worried about.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SHITTY LITTLE ISLAND?
Okay, so let’s put it this way. If the federal govt decided that people could take dumps in Your grandparents garage without asking, you would protest right? And if they said “well, your grandparents don’t live in The house so it shouldn’t be a problem”- it’d be a problem right? And then someone posts the article on here and someone types out a defense “yeah but it’s a garage, its uninhabitable” and then later “WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SHITTY LITTLE ISLAND?” …. You’re getting this right?
Cool. Who’s garage do we shit in then?
Because if we’re going to shit in a garage we need a garage to shit in. So is that garage in South Texas or out in The Pacific?
basically, no one has stated why this place is not a good place but the Gulf of Mexico is what we’re using now so… just keep using it?
Maybe the down votes are because not even 2 paragraphs from the one you quoted, they continue saying that they also have permission to drop debris all around the inhabitated islands.
Along with allowing Musk to rain schrapnel down near Mokumanamana, the FAA also granted SpaceX the ability to do so around Hawaii’s eight main islands — which are populated with American citizens who may end up having their houses or property hit by debris — and portions of the Papahānaumokuākea marine national monument, a UNESCO world heritage site that’s home to thousands of diverse species of animal and plant life.
bbbut the historical site! They are dropping it over the Gulf of Mexico right now so why shouldn’t we move the debris field? Is there really a bigger problem doing it here or is it because Hawaiians are just pissed off they will be the recipients now?
“let’s just do some more colonialism! it will be fine”
You mean colonize Hawaii, a US state? How in the fuck do you even think this?
the indigenous people have been heavily colonized. being a us state does not preclude you from some rich fuck showing up and ruining the ecosystem you maintain
Are they Americans or not? I know that’s a loaded question but we have to dump space trash somewhere if we are going to continue launching. We’re not allowed to dump the trash in international waters AFAIK so we have to pick somewhere in our borders.
Gulf of Mexico or The Pacific. Pick one.
you already dismissed this in another thread, but seriously, we don’t need spacex poluting our oceans and orbits like this. just because nasa isn’t doing launches isn’t reason to give a corporation carte blanche to do whatever in the name of “progress” while stymying real science. we could do, as a planet, with fewer launches than are being done and taking a longer view of science and research than quarterly profits.
Why not the Hamptons or Atherton?
For what it’s worth, I agree with you 100%. I’d love to see Musk fail in every one of his business endeavors, but if we’re going to drop space garbage over the planet, an uninhabited island seems like a great place to do it. The fact that a small group of people has superstitious ideas about that small patch of land should be irrelevant.
this attitude is the problem with religion though. it’s not that the religion isn’t guided by science, but the idea that one groups needs supercede another group’s. the hawaiians are the native keepers of this ecosystem. for thousands of years they have been there maintaining it. now because another group wants it for something else we’re just supposed to ignore them? fuck that. this is the same attitude that gave us the crusades, the rape of africa, the potato famine, and boarding schools for indigenous people in north america. it doesn’t matter that those acts were done by people who claimed to have god on their side and you claim there is no god.
what matters is those acts were done by people claiming to be more advanced than the backwards people they were doing it to, which is exactly what you are advocating for here
Yeah, lemmy seems to love religion as long as it’s not white or Catholic.
I suspect people would also be upset if Dumbo McNazi got a government contract to destroy a 500 year old cathedral to put up a nazi truck factory.
I suspect it’s more because of Elon Musk hate.
