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      It’s too hilarious it can’t be intentional that the top country not America is El Salvador which is where you’re questionably sending all your black and brown people.

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          I went to business school in the US about a decade ago (stayed full time engineer and happy about it) and I can absolutely see business schools unironically studying the process of privatizing and offshoring prisons as it relates to other more ethical and humane enterprises.

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      Interesting how it’s southern states at the top eh?

      Can’t have anything to do with the fact that the US legally allows prisoner slavery right?

      Winder what the race ratio of the prison population is.

      This is the country routinely accusing other countries of having “prison camps.”

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        Interesting how it’s southern states at the top eh?

        Legit amazed California wasn’t higher on the list. They’ve been doing mass-incarceration at an industrial scale since the 70s. But I guess the population is big enough that the per-capita statistics work out.

        States like Alabama, Louisiana, and Oklahoma have such small and anemic populations and dedicate so much of their domestic budget to incarceration that they’re basically giant publicly subsidized slave plantations.

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      Worthwhile note to people too lazy to click on the link is that this is the 2021 version. In June 2024 (which is linked at the top of the linked article) the numbers look a little different but not much better for the US.

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    ITT: Liberals who assume that evil Chinese MUST be lying about their statistics but the above board whites of the USA are not.

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    1970 was during the cultural revolution. In that year, the world population was 3.68 billion, and the population if China was just shy of 830 million - China had 22% of the world’s population, so if they held (only) 20% of the world’s prisoners, they’d have a lower than average incarceration rate.

    The same is not true for the US today, we have less than 5% of the world’s population today.

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    Instead of being in prison, they were dying out off hunger and concentration camps… There are idiots supporting US, and hypocrites supporting china…

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      The rest are in undeclared labor camps

      Goes for both

      US labor camps are not undeclared (though extraterritorial black sites are). They’re called prisons, and the labor is slave labor, thanks to the 13th amendment.

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        The previous user is a bit off base with the labor camps idea (not to say that the Xinjiang detention camps for Uyghurs aren’t widely known), but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detentions/行政拘留 for smaller offenses which are kept statistically separate from prison counts.

        If Raiden needs a source, the law covering administrative detentions can be reviewed here:

        https://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2021-01/23/content_5582030.htm

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          but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detention

          Isn’t that the same as Jails in the US which is separate from prison statistics?

          Jail is where you go for the night when arrested for disorderly conduct and are released the next day.

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            Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge’s signoff if they have proof of a crime.

            This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a “black jail”/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

            The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

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              Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge’s signoff if they have proof of a crime.

              And in the US, jail can be up to just short of a year.

              This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a “black jail”/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

              The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

              So pretty similar to the US.

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                And in the US, jail can be up to just short of a year.

                I’d like to point out, ‘proper’ jail, for misdemeanor level offenses, is ‘up to a year,’ but I personally know individuals who have been in jail (where people awaiting trial stay, in addition to people convicted of misdemeanors) for over three years now, still waiting on their trial.

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                Yeah, the justice system in the US is pretty fucked up. Provably so, with plenty of data made publicly available to back it up.

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      Source: The US propaganda you received and believe uncritically.

      What’s next, you explaining their inherent need to lie because of their race?