Socialists predicted that Ukraine would be betrayed by the US, there’s literally a 2+ year-old meme in the comment section of this post with the picture of Zelensky being welcomed by Gaddafi, Saddam and Bin Laden

Point systems that prevent you from air travel or entering other provinces because you dared criticize the almighty government

That’s… just not real… Your understanding of Chinese policy comes from curated western sources with vested interests in putting a dystopian and totalitarian understanding of China and its government in our countries’ people (we’re both westerners). There are systems in place to prevent certain convicted criminals from freely moving around there country, but that has little to do with criticising the party.

Regardless, big data on traffic doesn’t imply knowledge about the particular vehicles and drivers inside said vehicles. You’re just going ahead and assuming “dystopian control of people” because it’s China.

So let’s push for ramping up the military industrial complex in Europe instead?

The horrible and dystopian part for the comment above yours is the fact that it happens in China, which is ontologically bad and oppressive

Your take is that changing traffic management is a violation of human rights?

What’s your solution to that

And yet. All of this feels like a seismic shit prefacing going to war

And what’s the solution to that? Further militarization of the US and Europe? Or diplomacy and negotiations?

“Diplomacy dies”

What diplomacy has there been for the past 3 years of war?

We are workers as a class, not consumers, we work way more than the wealthy whereas they consume more. Our power resides in labor organising, unionisation, and mutual aid, not in consumption.

Neither of those were consumer boycotts though

Bottom 60% of earners in the US represent less than 25% of total consumption. The power is in labor and labor only, there’s a reason why we have plenty of historical examples of successful labor movements, not so much of consumer movements.

“Espouses but fails to uphold” sounds more like negligence to me. Negligence would be allowing fascism through inaction (like democrat administration). But the US does far worse than that (funding genocide and propping up fascism elsewhere)

ALL third-party candidates combined for less than 2% of total votes

So finally you admit it’s not third party voters to blame for Trump?

It depends. AI can help writing good code. Or it can write bad code

I’ll give you a hypothetical: a company is to hire someone for coding. They can either hire someone who writes clean code for $20/h, or someone who writes dirty but functioning code using AI for $10/h. What will many companies do?

This doesn’t seem to mirror my experiences, is the DNC actually pushing a position of not worrying about the situation?

Biden had immunity to do literally anything to prevent the rise of fascism. What he did: nothing.

Lol, if you want to try and move the goalposts from my “murdered Poles”

No, my claim is that you’re equating deported with murdered when you quote said book talking about “hundreds of thousands of murders”, not that murdered after deportation don’t count.

Yet again you fail to provide an alternative to the military occupation of Eastern Poland by the Soviet Union. The only possible alternative was Nazi occupation. I’m not trying to justify Katyn, I’m saying that the invasion itself was justified and that’s proven by the fact that you cannot even theoretically come up with a better alternative with 80 years of hindsight.

Imagine how we would look at the US if they had decided it was more profitable to just team up with the nazis instead

I don’t have to imagine, the US not only teamed up with but propped up fascism all over the globe. I’m Spanish myself, the Franco dictatorship was legitimised by the USA for its entire existence, but I could bring up Suharto in Indonesia, Pinochet in Chile, or an endless list of fascists supported by the USA. Invading eastern Poland and preventing it from being invaded by Nazis isn’t “teaming up with the Nazis”, I’m sorry that you can’t see beyond cold-war propaganda.

I fucking wish US politics didn’t affect the rest of the world and they didn’t take up 99% of the discourse online, but sadly that’s the state of affairs, go to a general purpose instance like lemm.ee or like reddthat.com, browse by all federated instances, and tell me how many of the posts are about US politics.

Ending conversations with people because they’re not from your country, when your country projects its power and its politics outwards overwhelmingly, isn’t productive

The fact that you even had to ask illustrates my point

There is more than one ongoing genocide, it’s just that the one in Palestine is the one the US is most obviously funding and supporting, which makes it relevant to USian politics.

Finding out about genocide, and using as leverage in an election where the collapse of democracy is on the table are not even remotely similar.

Finding out about genocide and being able to tell your representatives that you won’t vote them if they go on genociding people because that doesn’t represent you, seems pretty coherent and moral to me.

suddenly you all cared so much that it was worth sacrificing your own country

I’m not USian btw, I’m not sacrificing my own country. Arguably the ones sacrificing the country are the ones putting only unelectable candidates who run a campaign of genocide against literal fascists. If the Trump administration was so patently fascist and the Democrats, with full presidential power (and immunity as proven by Trump), did nothing to stop them, the fault is every bit as much in the Democrat camp as in the Republican.

Refuse to act against fascists while in government -> run a campaign on genocide and the “most lethal armed forces in the world” with a non-electable candidate changed 3 months before the election -> lose elections to fascists -> blame the voters

I mock it because before the genocide in Gaza, there was another genocide that NONE of you gave a shit about.

Care to elaborate?

Is even go so far as to wager that most of you couldn’t have pointed to Palestine on a map prior to last October

Even if you were right, what’s the point of that argument? “Increased sensibility to genocide as a consequence of people being able to learn from it from non-US-controlled outlets and social media because of the new availability of smartphones all over the world” negates being able to care about genocide? People 10 years ago couldn’t open their smartphones and see live footage of children being bombed to death by Israel, and being able to see that despite the mass media apparatus in the US being entirely pro-Israel is a new thing. Surely more people finding out about the genocide isn’t a bad thing?

I don’t know why you went out of your way to use the mocking “gEnoCiDe sUpPoRtErS” while, when, an actual genocide was being committed. You can disagree with the strategy of not voting for genocide supporters in elections, and there may even be compelling reasons when the alternative is trump, but mocking the people who prioritise not supporting genocide isn’t a very high moral ground in my opinion.

More than attempting for third parties to win, the whole “conditioning the vote on an end to genocide” was attempted at forcing the democrat administration to end the genocide under threat of losing the elections, not “let’s make sure that X third person gets elected”. The democratic party was clear: we will not compromise in our support of genocide even if it costs us the elections. So they lost.