• RedFrank24@lemmy.world
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    Sensitivity and fellowship, yet my (former) friend who is a big stoner has gone all-in on conspiracy theories and is championing the Reform party in the UK because Labour are apparently race traitors. Guess weed can’t do all the lifting.

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      If you are as smart and educated as Carl Sagan, I’m sure weed isn’t doing the heavy lifting.

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        Yeah for people like Sagan, the “serenity” he’s referring to is probably more about quieting his mind.

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      Maybe weed isn’t relevant in that case, let’s not forget that in the US, weed was promoted by liberals and opposed by the MAGA crowd.

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    Kinda blows my mind that capitalists so desperately want marijuana to be illegal. It’s basically the closest real-world analogue to Brave New World’s Soma.

    You want the populace to be complacent? You need to let em blaze it.

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      There’s already plenty out there to keep a population complacent. Also, the prison industrial complex and all that surrounds it is big business.

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    When I show up to an in-person interview high, in hopes they’ll think that’s my regular behavior:

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    Although I don’t agree with illegalization of cannabis, I do have to point out that thc content has gotten dangerously high from like a decade ago. Before, it was like 4%, now it’s nearing 19%. So I don’t feel comfortable recommending people to start recreationally smoking marijuana. It leads to serious mental issues and addiction in some cases. What triggers those “some cases” I don’t know but I don’t really want to try and find out.

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      And this rising potency is a direct consequence of cannabis being illegal. Producers are breeding stronger and stronger strains with higher THC content and lower CBD to get the most bang for their buck. This is true for all illicit drugs, as they tend towards becoming more potent when they need to be smuggled (e.g. why fentanyl is often added to heroin, as it delivers more potency per gram).

      If you legalise and regulate it, suddenly that pressure is taken away. Cannabis is produced in consistent and known strengths, distributed in packaging that clearly states the potency so people can make informed choices about what they take.

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        And this rising potency is a direct consequence of cannabis being illegal. Producers are breeding stronger and stronger strains with higher THC content and lower CBD to get the most bang for their buck.

        this isnt exactly true. (my instinct is to say it’s completely false but i could be wrong!) in many states, it’s medical marijuana that is >20% THC and the cheap public stuff is unregulated below that amount. so you have people getting a bogus medical card, buying up 30% strands, and smoking an ounce a week and going into psychosis. source: stoner drug counselor

        historically, yes! that was definitely a motivator. but the current system perpetuates it deeply

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          just guessing here, but I’d think it’s getting perpetuated, as people expect or are used to the potent stuff.

          Also not sure if the price is adjusted to strength, but I’d also suspect that people would buy stronger stuff and use less of it, so it lasts longer

          (pure speculation on my end)

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            I’m sure many do but unfortunately i haven’t met or heard about any of it… whether it’s in the world or on r/trees or wherever. People rolling up giant blunts, etc. it’s crazy the way people overindulge! they say it’s spiritual and then binge on it… it’s like downing an entire bottle of communion wine lol

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      I keep hearing that it’s supposed to be much stronger these days, but my experience is just the opposite.

      I was a heavy weed smoker in my young years, smoking standard generic pressbud, and it got me nicely stoned. I even had a couple of years where I was growing my own, so I’m very experienced with fresh homegrown weed, which was beautiful. Tasted great, with a very satisfying intense high. Then I quit smoking for a few decades.

      I recently started smoking again in my retirement, and was looking forward to trying this stronger weed I was hearing about. I’ve tried legal weed from various states, and none of it gets me nearly as stoned as the cheap pressbud of my youth.

      This is just anecdotal, but that’s been my experience.

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        I also have anecdotal stories of my friend’s life being ruined by weed addiction. We can all have some anecdotal evidence but more scientific evidence is coming out saying that there are higher levels of thc and if younger children smoke weed it will fuck them up. I do agree that using marijuana cautiously and medicinally can help but I can’t possibly recommend smoking for fun.

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        “I call people ‘afraid’ when they point out the current dangerous path of a drug that drives a 45 USD billion industry.”

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        I biased against meth, but also afraid of it as well. Doesn’t mean I’m going to go out of my way to try it and assess whether it’s really as bad as they say. I also won’t try out any poison, random pills I find, or anything I have to inject.

        Fear is a healthy thing sometimes, mate.

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        I’m glad stoners are so eco-conscious that they’re not wasting plastic on packaging.

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          I need like an upvote plus button. Like a “nice!” button. I’m always fighting the urge to post “damn that’s funny” all over the place.

          An upvote should cover it I suppose, but it’s not satisfying.

          Anyway, good one

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      I’ve been a huge pothead for decades and I honestly haven’t noticed an increase in content while smoking regular weed. I think that’s the branded stuff that sends you out of orbit.

      But if it has changed, that just means I smoke less to get to the high I like by smoking the equivalent of one joint during the day. It’s so much less smoke for my lungs this way, I’m not complaining. Lol

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    Did Sagan say that in writing? I know he wrote a few things about his experiences with pot, but those were informal, anecdotal writings, and this sounds much more formal, almost like a public statement meant for publication, or a speech.

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    If there is one thing weed is really good at, it is making people okay with being lazy and with their current situation. LSD on the otherhand, can really make you rethink everything.

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      To each his own, and though I have never consumed any kind of drugs nor think I ever will (nor can’t understand the need of drugs beyond medical field, pretty much contrary of what it is stated in the quote of this post), I concede keeping it illegal while at the same time alcohol and nicotine are both completely legal is one of the reasons I still think our so-called “civilization” is extremely idiotic, mediocre and pathetic. Either make all of them legal but regulate their consumption or make it so it never bothers anyone else or anything else in any way, or make all of them illegal - but the disparity of current legislation about all of them around the world is just nonsense.

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        Are they completely legal though? They’re age-restricted everywhere I can think of, and you can’t drive or operate heavy machinery under their influence. So they’re, like, legal but with a couple of caveats?

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          That is the “legal, but with regulations, make it not bother anyone else” part.

          Illegal simply means that if you have/consume said substance, there would be legal consequences (fines, imprisonment).

          These restrictions and rules of use don’t make the drug itself illegal, they just make it illegal to use in certain scenarios.

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            Yeah, sure, but it’s obviously a matter of degree. Ketamine is illegal to use in certain scenarios and also a front-line medical treatment. Chocolate, OTOH, has absolutely no restrictions that I’m aware of. I admit that I’m just nitpicking language choice here, though, and there was no need for me to say anything

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      I must ask why; the prohibition of it doesn’t make any sense to me at all. It’s all but proven fact that it’s not any more harmful than either smoking cigarettes, or drinking alcohol.

      Both of which are completely legal to consume all day, every day.

      Weed simply doesn’t deserve the status it is given, it was placed on schedule 1 as a gigantic middle finger from the ruling class, against the working class. They did it to punish those they saw as their lessers, and so they could have the police rough up anyone because they owned a small amount of the substance. But the cigarettes and alcohol they’ve enjoyed for decades and many of them have profited from? Those are fine. This new thing (at the time) that they aren’t profiting off of? Let’s make it illegal, so we can force everyone to use the things we do profit from.

      That’s basically the backstory here.

      Why you, or anyone would oppose lifting that prohibition is confusing at best, racist/classest at worst.

      I’m genuinely curious how you have come to have the position you do. If you don’t like it, nobody is going to force you to use the stuff, same with alcohol and cigarettes. So why do you care?