Top Trump official Stephen Miller’s recent declaration that anyone who “preaches hate for America” will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump’s platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller’s is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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    I’m really sick of these fucking Nazis.

    A line has been crossed, especially if you’ve ever taken the oath of enlistment or office.

    It is time to defend our constitution.

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      Don’t worry, we’re promised communism when the US falls into a nightmare fascist surveillance state.

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    To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -Theodore Roosevelt

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      They ARE traitors. Russian-backed, Nazi-seig-heil throwing traitors. They aren’t joking about wanting to jail liberals. They 100% mean it.

      They’ve been prepped to be fine with it since they started calling “liberalism a mental disorder.”

      Straight Russian propaganda. The Kremlin wants to stamp out western liberal democracy. MAGA’s the push to destroy America

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      Ok, but what about critics of the zio regime? Both “parties” agree that they should be kidnapped and encaged, right?

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        Nope. Jailing anyone without due process/etc is un American. We talked before.

        We are on the same side. If you’re not a bad actor, I encourage you to take a more constructive approach to this discussion.

        When Hamas very first attacked, I was on Israel’s side. Not everyone is as educated on Israel’s influence on our politics/etc. (fuck Israel. They can figure shit out on their own. I don’t want to fund genocide. Period.)

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        Zionist Democrats want to fine you and repress you in financial ways. They want to “tut tut” you for being anti-Semitic.

        Zionist Republicans want to put you (and immigrants, and LGBT, and dissenters) in a death camp.

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          And the death camp is only a formality. If they thought they could get away with it, they’d have the police gun you down in the street and start issuing death warrants.

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      Imagine if everyone just donated $10. We could fund our own think tank one that actually does the research, develops strategy, identifies pressure points, crafts effective slogans, and figures out how to organize and target key demographics for real impact.

      I’m tired of the usual approach where people are randomly called to show up and yell. It’s not working. Meanwhile, our opponents are using think tanks to play the long game and win. We’re playing checkers while they’re playing chess.

      We need to face the facts: they’re outmaneuvering us. If we want to stand a chance, we have to stop reacting and start adapting, using some of the same strategic tools, but with our own values and purpose.

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        They have so much money that they can easily corrupt those initiatives that’s why it’s hard

        They can even buy the president

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      We really are deep into dear leader territory with the cabinet spending an hour jerking the president off instead of fixing the economy he drove off a cliff.

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        The whole party is a cult now. I got banned from the conservative subreddit just for asking - as a conservative myself - what conservative values they think a criminal like him is embodying. What exactly is he conserving? This man has cheated on all of his wives, is a racist, extremely egotistical, etc. He’s closer to the Antichrist than the second coming of Christ. His entire admin is just birds of a feather.

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          This is part of the issue.

          That is the conservative platform and has been for as long as I’ve been alive, he is accurately representing them hence the lack of pushback.

          That said yes he’s so very close to the anti Christ’s description it’s not even funny.

          I don’t know you and I don’t want to judge or tell you what you are or sound like but from that description you’re more left of center then right.

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            It’s funny because “true conservatives” usually mean they are fiscally conservatives and if we look at Canada the most fiscally conservatives governments (i.e. the ones that ran the least deficits whole in power) are the ones on the left side of the political spectrum.

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              That tends to be the case in many countries because the left are under so much scrutiny they have to be very careful with budgets. The right, on the other hand, are given a pass to do all kinds of irresponsible things because they are assumed to be “fiscally responsible” and their supporters only want to hear them say “tax cut” a few times and they’re satisfied.

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                That and social programs are actually cost effective. Give access to education to people, they end up with better jobs and repay the investment via taxes. Give them access to healthcare, they can keep working instead of being disabled for life because they couldn’t get treatments. House them, they can find work.

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                  For all their professed know-how with money, conservatives have never understood the idea of investing in society for a long-term return. They’re always very short-sighted.

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              currently conservatives, in most govt around the world, is mostly Right wing or ALT-RIGHT now.

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            I don’t know. Before Trump, the conservative platform was actually conservative - though of course there were extremist fringes. But Trump sparked a sudden transition to extreme nationalist populism, which validated and legitimized those fringes, making them mainstream. Now, that ideology is the de facto face of conservatism. It’s depressing. I’ve considered myself a conservative Democrat since the 2015-2016 election cycle.

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              You’re not wrong about “conservatism” undergoing a rapid metamorphosis in the past decade, but it was only possible in the first place because republicans put party before principle, and they’ve been doing that for a long time.

              In the Bush era, how many times did the “party of small government” tell you it needed to restrict abortion, regulate marriage rights, wage a war on drugs, and expand the surveillance state? There was no rhyme or reason to any of it other than culture wars and security theater, and it certainly wasn’t part of some coherent conservative ideology.

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              sudden transition to extreme nationalist populism,

              White nationalists terrorists down to like McVey were all conservatives for reason and it isn’t love and inclusion.

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              I don’t know. Before Trump, the conservative platform was actually conservative

              No it wasn’t. Not since at least Eisenhower.

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              its because OBAMA broke thier minds, they couldnt handle a half-black, muslim was the POTUS.

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            The DINOS are in on it, but they cant come against the gop, for fear of getting primaried. we know for a while manchin and sinema are just 2 of the many Dinos in the senate, hence also the reason of the lack of pushback.

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          The conservative value he’s embodying is authoritarianism. That’s it; that’s what conservatism has always been ever since Burke and DeMaistre, who were literally monarchists, invented the concept.

          I’m sorry that you got sold a lie, but what you thought conservatism was was never correct.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CI2vk3ugk

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          People today don’t know what conservatism is about. It is definitely left of today’s far right Republican party.

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        emulating russia, almost as if trump is getting his suggestions from putin, if not directly.

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      It can also mean disapproval of genocide, or having the wrong skin color, or speaking Spanish, or being gay or trans, or saying it’s OK to be gay or trans. Basically it means doing anything Nazis don’t like.

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    The fact that Trump is testing that if this is legal at all is weird. You shouldn’t be able to “deport” a born native person to another country for having an opinion.

    Sure prison in general is not perfect, but wouldn’t you rather be prisoned in the country you are born in and not deported to some country Trump had happened to pick for you?

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      Id rather be deported and cast free as a vagabond than imprisoned period. To be “deported” to the internment camps is terrifying.

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        I don’t think Trump would pick a safe place for you to be deported to because as I seen from some of the statements from the organization and supporters, if they were to deport someone this administration may consider them as some of the worse.

        That’s what I was getting at when I was saying “deported to some country Trump had happened to pick for you.” So even if you know of places that might be safe places to get deported to, that doesn’t mean that’s where the Trump Administration might deport someone.

        Someone should take this stance to the supreme court or to a judge because this just screams obviously, as a 1st amendment violation since it is coming directly from the government, rather then strictly from private a social media platform.

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    Not American but I hate the USA’s current administration. I am neither ashamed nor scared to say this. I presume this would be labeled as hate since I can’t see why their definition of “hate” wouldn’t be incredibly vague so as to hurt as many people as possible.

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    Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

    Oh good, you’re finally awake. Let’s get you caught up on the last six months.

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        Yeah, no, this term there’s a lot less kayfabe, a lot more actual speedrunning tyranny. Not to say that they weren’t angling at tyranny before, but it’s clear they learned their lessons and came back with a plan.

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        For us, yes. For Republicans, no. In Trump’s first term:

        He stacked the Supreme Court in his favor (2 of the 3 he appointed helped steal the 2000 election for Bush)
        He appointed a record number of federal judges (260, most of which come from the Federalist Society)
        He reversed a CFPB rule that made it easier to file class action lawsuits against banks for fucking us over
        He oversaw more federal executions of prisoners than any president in 120 years
        He cut corporate tax rates from 35% to 21%, the lowest rate since 1939
        He pulled the US out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and our spot was filled by China

        There is so much more that he got done which set the stage for what is happening now. For example, he tried to pass about two thirds of the Heritage Foundation’s ‘Mandate for Leadership’ policies in his first term, which is what inspired them to write ‘Project 2025’, another iteration of the Mandate on steroids.

        The fact that Trump lost the election in 2020 is a total fluke, and it took a global pandemic that killed over a million Americans to make him lose.

        His first term was far from a shit show in terms of making the current shit show possible.

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          “He stacked the Supreme Court in his favor (2 of the 3 he appointed helped steal the 2000 election for Bush)”

          Fucking, what!?

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            Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh worked on the legal team for Bush in 2000, helping swing the case after the Brooks Brothers Riot.

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    Some worried the administration was veering into an authoritarian territory.

    Yeah no fucking shit. It has been happening since he got into office you fucking dipshits.

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      Yep, and in no small part because of this shit right here, mealy-mouthed normalizing of a fascist.

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    Fuck you Mr Miller. Fuck what you and yours are doing to my country. I hate it. I fucking dare you to deport me.

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          So we can’t criticize the country we were born and raised in without “wanting to lose all we have”? Sounds like some bootlicking bullshit to me.

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          I don’t, I just want to lose the Republicans. And the purists who would rather have Trump than support Harris. And people who Vape.