The dairy industry is terrible for our world in many ways
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FWIW IMHO there lies the problem.
Most produces done by an artisan, nearly regardless of the focus itself, often shows both love for the process, the final product, and nearly all link of the chain leading to it. Now… scaling that up seems to inexorably remove any beauty and humanity from it all. The end goal becomes gradually abstracted away. The steps are only there to be optimized, if not ideally removed entirely. Shortcuts are found, optimizations rely on dumping costs on the environment (negative externalities) and justifications are put forward, e.g. it’s “the market” that demands it, it’s for the shareholders, etc. In practice one is left with an extremely efficient “machine” that cheats it way out of every responsibility possible, that can be copy/pasted anywhere else without any regarding for the local ecosystem, being nature, culture, politics, etc. The relentless growth of such machines create powerful “industry” with lobby groups, ties to power bribing their ways for even more lenience.
Scale and greed leave us with cheap products that are seemingly copies of the original yet devoid all humanity that made them beautiful in the first place.
I agree with you. One other thing that’s also very important to note: the immense animal cruelty involved in this industry. We shouldn’t hurt animals on such a massive scale. Yet we do and have done for many years.
It’s good to that you recognize that cheese is extremely bourgeois.
I bet it’s hard not be bourgeois while commenting on Lemmy.
-cheese commercials stop -
General Public: what’s something good to put on a sandwich that just has ham on it?🤔
Seeing a lot of cheese-related memes lately. Milk companies skim the fat off and make it practically for free. They must have an excess of the shit.
the dairy industry is horrifically cruel and destructive, which is why they can not advertise their products with openness or transparency of the process.
You mean they don’t want us to know that cows need to get a calf every year to produce milk, but that the calves don’t get that milk but are raised for slaughter? Or that cows only live to 1/3rd of their natural life span, because they are brutally coerced to the slaughter house when their production goes down? Where they’re not always fully sedated when being killed? Chewing like crazy to get all the food into the milk (and manure), using up a large area in agriculture as well as tropical rain forest? Continuously producing greenhouse gasses for fertilizer for animal feed, or just by belching? Being kept under light at night to further increase production? Usually staying indoors? Yeah, I wonder why they don’t bring that up during commercials.
I’m just picturing a cheese ad with happy people frolicking with robotic smiles with this information in a fast voice over like an American drug commercial
It really should come with a health warning like that.
Curdled mammary secretions of a tortured mother
As if they need to, lol. Cheese is delicious.
Gonna be honest, can’t say I’ve ever seen a cheese commercial before
Here is one that is stuck in my brain:
Wasn’t there a cheese commercial that got popular here on lemmy during the Olympics because it featured an athlete? Hmm, maybe I’m confusing something…
That athlete was sponsored by a cheese company IIRC
Their cheese had a brush with world fame and their only mistake was not publishing more pictures
Does velveeta count? Personally, I say no
Velveeta: Bringing Washington style gridlock to your colon.
The crazy thing is cheese is so common in the US because the government did what government does and got involved in the dairy industry because of prohibition and things got out of hand and now we have stuffed crust pizza and the cheesy gordita crunch.
Those cheese caves aren’t going to empty themselves.
There is a disgusting amount of lobbying and corruption in the agricultural industry. However, food security is an important part of a country. You wouldn’t want to completely rely on other countries for food.
You don’t understand the issue.
The government bought tons of milk to make ice cream during the war because ice cream took the social place of banned alcohol. They bought so much that dairy farmers scaled to meet demand. The government wanted to stop buying milk after the war and alcohol prohibition ended, that would have collapsed the market, so the government kept buying milk. They couldn’t do anything with the milk but turn it into cheese that had no distribution to homes, so they stuck it in a cave and everybody forgot about it, while still stockpiling the cheese for decades. Eventually Regan was given the hot potato and he gave us government cheese.
Well, dairy industry still needs to keep up demand, here comes the American Dairy Council and Dairy Management Inc with “Got Milk?”, the concept that milk is the best way to build strong bones, dairy being so important on the food pyramid(wholly a marketing plan imagined by the FDA headed by leaders of the food industries), bailing out Dominos with free cheese, and a strategic partnership with entities such as the Yum! Corporation to push more cheese into American diets.
We could have a healthy dairy industry with less milk products in our diets, but the government got more involved than they should have and doubled down to the detriment of the economy, industry, and the health of the citizens… Like they always do.
Cool story, but the EU eats more cheese per capita than the us. Every country in Europe just did the same thing the us did, know that cheese is delicious. No narrative required.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/527195/consumption-of-cheese-per-capita-worldwide-country/
You are missing the point. In 1950 we ate 7.7lbs of cheese a year, as of 2022 we eat 41.8lbs of cheese a year. That is 0.33oz or one half a slice of Craft Single a day to 1.8oz or 3 slices per day.
In 1950s Germany they ate 8.6lbs per person per year, in 2022 it was 54.2lbs.
Yes, cheese is delicious, but you don’t see that type of increase without considerable industry effort.
Not sure those numbers back some prohibition ice cream conspiracy to make everyonelove cheese. But industry certainly met demand throughout industrialization. It’s sold to us like everything else, and maybe we shouldn’t buy so much of it, but all it really had to do was be awesome.
The second video hits what I was talking about, the first video establishes the dairy demand. You can only watch the 2nd video and understand it. Not exactly a conspiracy, more of a downstream consequence of government antics and capitalism being successful.
I understand and know about this stuff. But thanks for youtube vids. Gruyère has been making cheese continuously since the 12th century and is now available worldwide. That happened without this.
They don’t want you to buy “cheese”, they want you to buy “my brand of cheese”
How do you expect to find out about more obscure cheeses if they are not advertised in some way? You’d never stumble across Stinking Bishop or Epoisses de Bourgogne or Pule.
- If it’s available in my grocery, I’ll stumble across it.
- If it’s not available at my grocery, what is the point of me knowing about it?
- Wow, what’s that moldy in the corner?
- It’s not even cheese, sir, we didn’t clean the stall good enough
- Can I still have 500g, please?
Bob’s Cheese Emporium in the front … Larry’s Mushroom shop in the back
I was like “époisses isn’t obscure” but then I remembered my family is from a few km from there so I guess I’m a biased sample haha. Still though I’d say that’s one of the more well known French cheese that you can find in any french region not just where it’s from. Outside of France is another story for sure.
This is why in France they start shoving that shit down their throat in kindergarten. They get little cheese tastings for lunch.
Gotta keep the cheese machine going, ain’t nobody eating fluffy cheese without indoctrination
OTOH… I’m not buying cheese and I’m never going to start buying cheese. ;) Equally applicable.
The only cheeses I refuse to even try are maggot and frumunda.
I refuse anything by Kraft or anything individually sliced and wrapped in plastic. Imo it’s not even cheese
Even that cheese has its place in a burger or cheese and onion toastie.
It melts without splitting.
- Chef Voldemort
Its actually just watered down cheese with like two other ingredients which are common food additives. This is a great vid of someone making their own ‘american cheese’
They’re just a solidified cheese beshmel. It’s cheddar, milk and binders to keep it solid. At least the good quality singles. Some of the cheaper ones are made with oils and have no actual cheese. Those ones behave and taste like plastic.
One time we bought a big bag of preshredded mozzarella from one of the big box stores, so we had like five pounds of it. We made lasagna. Instead of melting, it browned. Crisped. We looked closer. It was some imitation cheese.
Gotta say tho, lasagna with some of the cheese crispy and some melted? That was a good week
Same, same. I have standards. They might be low, but they are there.
My Sardinian friend swears it delicious. If it was offered I think I would have to try it just to say I did it.
The frumunda or the maggot?
Ha, maggot. Although he is Italian which, I believe, is where fromunda originated. Perhaps he can give me a sample next time I see him.
Whoever is making antiabuse commercials can save their money. We’re abusing people and and we’re never going to stop abusing people.
I feel bad for their toilet
