J.D. Vance is struggling to respond to Donald Trump’s debate claim that they’re not talking about a major election issue.
  • Nougat@fedia.io
    2451·
    4 months ago

    “Your running mate, J.D. Vance, has said that you would veto [an abortion ban] if it did come to your desk,” said ABC News anchor Linsey Davis, referring to Vance’s statement last month that Trump “explicitly” told him that he would veto a federal abortion ban.

    “Well I didn’t discuss it with J.D., in all fairness. And I don’t mind if he has a certain view, but I don’t think he was speaking for me,” Trump said on the debate stage, before stumbling through the rest of his words. “We don’t have to discuss it.”

    When JD Vance says that Trump “‘explicitly’ told him that he [Trump] would veto a federal abortion ban”, I believe JD Vance. Whatever was happening in the room at the time, Trump thought that that statement would be most beneficial to him personally in that moment. When Trump said the opposite thing in the debate, it’s because he thought that would be most beneficial to him personally in that moment.

    The only thing that matters to Trump is what he thinks is best for him personally right now. Ethics are irrelevant. Legality is irrelevant. Continuity is irrelevant. Reality is irrelevant. He does not remember the past and he cannot conceive of the future. “Me, now” is the only thing that matters to him. There is no big picture. His entire universe is a singularity of “me, now.”

    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
      77·
      4 months ago

      The only thing that matters to Trump is what he thinks is best for him personally right now. Ethics are irrelevant. Legality is irrelevant. Continuity is irrelevant. Reality is irrelevant. He does not remember the past and he cannot conceive of the future. “Me, now” is the only thing that matters to him. There is no big picture. His entire universe is a singularity of “me, now.”

      Best summary of Trump I’ve read yet.

    • thefartographer@lemm.ee
      201·
      4 months ago

      I believe Trump when he said that he never discussed that with Vance.

      It was actually John Barron!

      That’s right, baby! The Barron is back and more senile than ever and he’s speaking exclusively to J.D. Vance.

      ^Good God, I fucking hate that this joke could be real^

      • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
        12·
        4 months ago

        They’re different people and totally don’t have two 2 other family members’ names, including his alter ego, Donnie “Johnny” Trump

        • thefartographer@lemm.ee
          15·
          4 months ago

          “So, Mr. Barron-”

          “No, I’ve told you so many times, Baron is my son.”

          “Wait, are you saying that you’re actually Donald Trump?”

          “No, no, of course not. I’m John Miller. Definitely not Trump. Never even met Trump.”

          “Okaaaayyyy… Mr. Miller-”

          “You don’t have to be so formal. Please, just call me President Trump.”

          • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
            4·
            4 months ago

            This reminds me of the Competitive Endurance Tickling episode of The Dollop, the guy financing all of it had several online personas they mocked because it was so transparently all the one guy who clearly didn’t want to have it all traced back to him

  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee
    91·
    4 months ago

    I can explain it. Everyone is expendable to Donald Trump. This includes our country.

  • unmagical@lemmy.ml
    72·
    4 months ago

    Cause Trump is incapable of admitting fault. He wanted his supporters to kill his last VP because Pence recognized that America didn’t want Trump.

    • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
      26·
      4 months ago

      Let’s not give Pence more credit than he deserves. Pence didn’t decline to support Trump out of a sense of duty or because he cares about Americans, but because Dan Quayle (!) told him he had no choice in the matter:

      Over and over, Pence asked if there was anything he could do.

      ‘Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,’ Quayle told him.

      Pence pressed again.

      ‘You don’t know the position I’m in,’ he said, according to the authors.

      ‘I do know the position you’re in,’ Quayle responded. ‘I also know what the law is. You listen to the parliamentarian. That’s all you do. You have no power.’

      source: How Dan Quayle saved democracy. Yes, really.

  • NABDad@lemmy.worldEnglish
    65·
    4 months ago

    Donald Trump’s response if asked:

    "I’ve never met J.D. Vance. I don’t know who he is. People tell me he’s a fan, but I’ve never met him.

  • chakan2@lemmy.worldEnglish
    52·
    4 months ago

    JD knew what he signed up for. It’s being Trump’s bitch and not certifying the election results.

    He’s the cushion for pushin in this election.

      • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
        44·
        4 months ago

        Draft dodging in a conflict where we were the bad guys is the moral decision though.

        I don’t understand why people bring up his stopped clock moments as a gotcha.

        • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
          11·
          4 months ago

          He has never given any indication that he did it for moral reasons. He has consistently described service members as suckers and has expressed confusion about why anyone would be willing to serve. Have you ever seen any indication that Trump was opposed to the war in general or is a pacifist or skipped out for any reason other than it is unpleasant and dangerous? Granted, I don’t know that Bill Clinton was super anti-war either, but I guess it bothers me less when the draft dodgers don’t openly mock service members and POWs.

          • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
            12·
            4 months ago

            He has never given any indication that he did it for moral reasons

            Yes, hence why I referred to it as a stopped-clock moment, as in “a stopped clock is right twice a day”.

            I am not accusing Donald Trump of having any moral integrity.

            it bothers me less when the draft dodgers don’t openly mock service members and POWs.

            Nah, John “I hate the [slur for asians], I will hate them as long as I live.” Mccaine was a ghoul who is rotting in hell, everyone should be mocking him.

            On one hand, getting shot down stopped him from murdering more Vietnamese people, on the other hand, if Jane Fonda hadn’t shot him down, he’d have probably kept crashing planes.

    • orcrist@lemm.ee
      12·
      4 months ago

      They aren’t confused. They want the base to understand that Trump would definitely pass an abortion ban, but they don’t want to say that outright so that they can keep a few more votes from people who aren’t paying close attention.

  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    4 months ago

    What do they say about beware meeting your hero? Vance has finally met his hero - the real Donald Trump.

    Maybe Vance should be a bit more discerning in who he idolizes. Though this is just a sample from a life of ill-advised life choices that stem from being an immoral, stupid sack of shit.