Edited title to add “Candid”

  • RustyShackleford@literature.cafeEnglish
    671·
    3 months ago

    I was watching my 6 year old nephew and we saw Peter Weller, so I told him that’s the guy who played Robocop. Of course my nephew wanted to meet him, he was nice and asked what my nephews favorite part of the movie was… unfortunately, my nephew excitedly said, “when you shot the bad guy’s wieners off!”

  • blackluster117@possumpat.ioEnglish
    381·
    3 months ago

    That’s the smile of a cyborg that shot a scumbag in the dick. Gotta love Peter Weller. He was also Batman!

            • vithigar@lemmy.ca
              7·
              3 months ago

              The school is not congress and its rules are not laws. I’m not sure how you think the first amendment applies.

            • remotelove@lemmy.ca
              41·
              3 months ago

              Ok. Let’s break this down: Your definition and interpretation of free speech is irrelevant. You can interpret anything however you want whenever you want and that is fine. Your arguments may not hold up in court and you cannot force that definition on others because you believe you are enlightened.

              As broken as our legal system is, it is all we have for now. As such, you need to understand that the only definition of free speech that matters is the one that has been interpreted by a court of law.

              Here ya go: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethel_School_District_v._Fraser

              You can keep babbling on like a SovCit if you want, but you need to understand our legal system and how rights work, especially for minors.

        • remotelove@lemmy.ca
          342·
          3 months ago

          Anyone can say anything they want at any time. What people forget is that words may come with consequences.

          Schools must have rules for a number of reasons, mainly because they are full of kids. Dress codes for schools apply across all students and must not discriminate. So, if a school has a rule that any words can’t be on shirts, no child can have words on their shirt.

          Here is a breakdown for you: https://www.freedomforum.org/school-dress-codes/

          What you are talking about has been in the courts a number of times.

              • remotelove@lemmy.ca
                2·
                3 months ago

                What we are saying is that you can say anything you want but there should be reasonable limits.

                Freedom of speech covers most opinions and ideas except when words present a direct threat to others.

                China can and does censor things on a broad scale and as an example, calling the government or dictator stupid would probably get you tossed in jail. That is not freedom of speech.

                • yamanii@lemmy.world
                  11·
                  3 months ago

                  They said their speech, and got the consequence of being jailed for it, exactly what the comment I responded to said, my point is that freedom of speech doesn’t actually exist.

        • hime0321@lemmy.worldEnglish
          172·
          3 months ago

          Well hate speech is free speech too. Schools don’t want to foster that behavior and so they can make and enforce policies to create the learning environment that they want. Also your argument works for bringing guns into schools too. The second amendment is above those school policies too.

          • remotelove@lemmy.ca
            61·
            3 months ago

            Minors have limited rights anyway, but mostly in the voting side of things. An adult is defined as someone who has reached the “age of majority”. After that, they are free to make adult decisions and be fully accountable for their actions.

            Schools are basically forced to accept responsibility for kids for a number of hours per day. As such, schools must create a safe environment for all students and maintain some kind of order and ensure the rights of other kids aren’t infringed.

            Me exercising my rights can never infringe on the rights of others. Many people don’t understand that.

        • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
          101·
          3 months ago

          A school if free to throw you off their premises for violating their rules too.

          They are not forced to give you a platform.

        • felsiq@lemmy.zip
          92·
          3 months ago

          Out of curiosity, would you say the same applies to putting nazi propaganda or violent gore on a shirt and wearing it in a school?

            • felsiq@lemmy.zip
              1·
              3 months ago

              I can see what you’re saying in the sense that nothing should physically be stopping them from saying it, but also nothing should be insulating them from the consequences of what they say, right? To take it to a logical extreme, if a kid says they’re going to shoot up the school the next day, I hope we can agree that requires more from school admins than just “well, it’s his right to say that”.
              I personally also think it’s stupid for a school to be involved for a shirt like in the OP (western society is much too puritanical about simple nudity/body parts, imo), but there’s clearly a line somewhere about what speech/expression can be allowed in public. Assuming you can agree with that, where would you want that line to be? I’d personally draw the line before it reaches threats to peoples’ physical/mental health (like the nazis and gore I mentioned).

                • felsiq@lemmy.zip
                  1·
                  3 months ago

                  Yep, not implying it is - like I said, just taking the point to a logical extreme where (ideally) everyone would agree that at least some speech can’t be allowed with no repercussions. I’m curious where along the spectrum of fucked up things to say you’d personally draw the line - were you focusing on the distinction between nazi shit/gore and a direct threat because you’d consider either/both allowable, or just wanting to point out a false dichotomy?

        • brygphilomena@lemmy.world
          61·
          3 months ago

          When a student goes to school, the school becomes in loco parentis and the student doesn’t have protection from school officials. Children, on campus, general do not have protection for free speech, protection from unreasonable searches or seizures, or really any of their rights.

          The school, acting as parents, can restrict their speech, search their bags, and confiscate contraband.

          The school can even waive most of the child’s rights even when dealing with law enforcement until parents arrive.

        • Soulg@sh.itjust.works
          41·
          3 months ago

          That’s not what free speech means, a school can absolutely punish you for your speech

  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
    415·
    3 months ago

    Just a reminder that cops are bad enough and robotic cops will be even worse!

    Also why is there a Photoshoped hole in Peter Wellers crotch? Did that guy finally get sweet revenge?

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
      161·
      3 months ago

      Also why is there a Photoshoped hole in Peter Wellers crotch? Did that guy finally get sweet revenge?

      I think it’s a reflection and this is an photograph of a photograph. Taken with flash. A phone flash probably.

      You can see the texture in the flash bit.