Fair. The point is that on the artist formerly known as twitter, there are still some who can be talked out of the point of view because they have not seen anything else, the platform supresses them and bans conversations based on what ever elons biases are this week. Others have already drank the coolaid and the only solution then is to just throw heavy history text books at them until it sinks in that there is a reason that books covering europe from 1935-1945 weigh a ton.
this is the first time that i’ve ever heard this and it’s kinda hilarious.
Nazism is […] a spectrum
lol, just L.O.L. do you want a little genocide with your 3pm tea or a bit more? How many brown dead children do there have to be to make it worthwhile? (/s)
i think that you might have a point, but you really gotta work on your verbalization and presentation. saying “nazism is a spectrum” is not gonna resonate with anyone.
This “Nazi is a spectrum” nonsense is why you guys refused to have allies and got destroyed by maga. It’s why when anyone even slightly right or even left of you, has a slightly differing opinion, you call them nazis. You cheapen and confuse the situation by throwing everyone under the Nazi bus
You can both be vehemently anti-immigration and pro minority rights at the same time. It’s mental gymnastics at its core, I agree, but it exists.
Very few people hold a cohesive worldview that holds up against total scrutiny, and the one’s who do probably spend too much time inside their heads convinced of their own sanctity.
Perhaps. But Nazism at its core is deeply racist and therefore anti-immigration and anti-minority. Do I even need to spell out what they did to Jews, Romas, the disabled and other nationalities?
Not trying to put words into your mouth, but I suspect that what you mean is that fascism is a spectrum, not Nazism itself. Fascism that started in Italy is the original fascism, and they are kinda mild compared to Nazism. While both Nazism and fascism reject liberal democracy and freedom of speech and press; embrace militarism; ultranationalism; and romantacising the past, some fascists embrace diversity. Even in Italian fascist propaganda, they advocate treating Africans as Italian compatriots. After all, Mussolini and his fascist party wants to recreate the multiethnic Roman empire. Why be racists then if that is their goal? Italian fascists don’t mind other races so long as people subscribe to Italian national identity. Italy also either refused or delayed sending Jews to concentration camps, because Italian fascists don’t really care about the Nazi view on Jews save for a few.
Even though Nazism are fascists, not all fascists are Nazis. Nazism took inspiration from fascism, albeit with more racism. Many would argue that Nazism is a subset of fascism while some say they are different ideology altogether. There was also a contemporary far right Brazilian group who admired Hitler. They sent a letter to Hitler praising him, but advocated for him to embrace diversiry like what Brazil does.
I’m so strongly opposed to illegals undercutting the working class in this country, that I think we should give them all passports so that they’re legally entitled to minimum wage and thus offer no competitive advantage to greedy employers
Their stage where if you’re good enough at appealing to centrists, they’ll just ban you or lower your post visibility. Their stage where the algorithm can be manipulated to show centrists only your worst posts.
Their stage that dies if enough sensible movers leave that the sheep see only vileness from evil movers.
Sorry, that’s not how this works. That’s your liberalism. Why should I compromise with a group that wants my loved ones dead? They have made their choices.
Not all of them want your loved ones dead, some of them are just scared of change and are listening to the loudest voice in the room promising them stability (and/or lies)
And then will run straight back to them at the first opportunity. There is no reason to trust them, at all. They enable the worst of us and do not care about anyone but themselves. That is not an ally.
Who uses Twitter anymore that isn’t a Nazi?
Nazism is sadly a spectrum, and you can appeal to those undecided in the middle by hopping onto their stage
No it’s not.
sure it is
the threshold is quite low compared to how crazy some beliefs can get, but beyond that it is a spectrum like anything else
If you fall on the “fascism spectrum” at all, you’re a fascist. Period.
yeah that’s basically the exact argument I’m making
your argument is that all fascists are the same. mine is that some are even worse than others
Fair. The point is that on the artist formerly known as twitter, there are still some who can be talked out of the point of view because they have not seen anything else, the platform supresses them and bans conversations based on what ever elons biases are this week. Others have already drank the coolaid and the only solution then is to just throw heavy history text books at them until it sinks in that there is a reason that books covering europe from 1935-1945 weigh a ton.
Bad news for you then, with the rise of right wing populism everybody is a fascist now.
When do we form la resistance which we all will be in? We have to do something against all these racists don’t we?
Yeah. Really bad news.
this is the first time that i’ve ever heard this and it’s kinda hilarious.
lol, just L.O.L. do you want a little genocide with your 3pm tea or a bit more? How many brown dead children do there have to be to make it worthwhile? (/s)
i think that you might have a point, but you really gotta work on your verbalization and presentation. saying “nazism is a spectrum” is not gonna resonate with anyone.
I think that decorating my words more to assay the feelings those who cannot parse intent would be a race to the bottom that wouldn’t help anyone
now that’s a well-worded response :)
also yes, i can see that point. i guess i’m just used to adapting my language to those around me to get better audience reception.
This “Nazi is a spectrum” nonsense is why you guys refused to have allies and got destroyed by maga. It’s why when anyone even slightly right or even left of you, has a slightly differing opinion, you call them nazis. You cheapen and confuse the situation by throwing everyone under the Nazi bus
I can’t work out if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me
What?
You can both be vehemently anti-immigration and pro minority rights at the same time. It’s mental gymnastics at its core, I agree, but it exists.
Very few people hold a cohesive worldview that holds up against total scrutiny, and the one’s who do probably spend too much time inside their heads convinced of their own sanctity.
Perhaps. But Nazism at its core is deeply racist and therefore anti-immigration and anti-minority. Do I even need to spell out what they did to Jews, Romas, the disabled and other nationalities?
Not trying to put words into your mouth, but I suspect that what you mean is that fascism is a spectrum, not Nazism itself. Fascism that started in Italy is the original fascism, and they are kinda mild compared to Nazism. While both Nazism and fascism reject liberal democracy and freedom of speech and press; embrace militarism; ultranationalism; and romantacising the past, some fascists embrace diversity. Even in Italian fascist propaganda, they advocate treating Africans as Italian compatriots. After all, Mussolini and his fascist party wants to recreate the multiethnic Roman empire. Why be racists then if that is their goal? Italian fascists don’t mind other races so long as people subscribe to Italian national identity. Italy also either refused or delayed sending Jews to concentration camps, because Italian fascists don’t really care about the Nazi view on Jews save for a few.
Even though Nazism are fascists, not all fascists are Nazis. Nazism took inspiration from fascism, albeit with more racism. Many would argue that Nazism is a subset of fascism while some say they are different ideology altogether. There was also a contemporary far right Brazilian group who admired Hitler. They sent a letter to Hitler praising him, but advocated for him to embrace diversiry like what Brazil does.
I’m so strongly opposed to illegal immigration that I think we should just open the borders and let folks come and go as they please.
I’m so strongly opposed to illegals undercutting the working class in this country, that I think we should give them all passports so that they’re legally entitled to minimum wage and thus offer no competitive advantage to greedy employers
They’re fucking people.
I agree, hence why I suggest giving them passports the moment they touch soil
Missed the point completely.
They may be “undocumented immigrants,” or even “illegal immigrants” (and that’s borderline).
But “illegals” is dehumanizing.
Their stage where if you’re good enough at appealing to centrists, they’ll just ban you or lower your post visibility. Their stage where the algorithm can be manipulated to show centrists only your worst posts.
Their stage that dies if enough sensible movers leave that the sheep see only vileness from evil movers.
Perhaps, but they lost the right for humanization if they are stripping it from others.
The vitriolic worst ones yes. The quiet complacent ones might be rescueable
Sorry, that’s not how this works. That’s your liberalism. Why should I compromise with a group that wants my loved ones dead? They have made their choices.
Not all of them want your loved ones dead, some of them are just scared of change and are listening to the loudest voice in the room promising them stability (and/or lies)
And then will run straight back to them at the first opportunity. There is no reason to trust them, at all. They enable the worst of us and do not care about anyone but themselves. That is not an ally.