• ms.lane@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Any map depicting UTC0 in the centre and not the international date line in the centre is unequal.

    -t Pacific nations.

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 days ago

      I feel like thats why UTC never took off. They should have set 0 in the pacific ocean somewhere and everyone would have been much happier.

  • Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    Whatever map that uses Eurasia rather than pretend Europe is it’s own continent is fine by me

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    7 days ago

    The globe in the thumbnail is really bothering me. Does the artist not know how to align objects?

  • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    This is the best idea I’ve heard since that one weird website I found that said every country should put a sky blue pennant above their flag to remind us we share a planet.

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    9 days ago

    I mean the problem with any projection of earth onto a 2d simplified shape surface is that it will be inherently distorted. The Mercator projection is scaled properly towards the equator but has to scale upwards more and more toward the poles to be able to fit the given area.

    Even their own map, which for some reason isn’t shown in either the video or on the main page, isn’t accurate either. It’s better but is also warped in its own way, it would be nice if they had a little blurb that says something to that effect.

    Here’s the actual map projection they are pushing for; https://equal-earth.com/equal-earth-projection.html

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      Yes, it is an awful website with an awful promotion video. Sizing the countries down but not connecting them and not showing you the world map as it would look like in total is absolutely not furthering the cause. I’m so mad I’m not sure I even want to sign the petition to be honest. Granted, my school atlas did not have the mercator projection.

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        8 days ago

        What really disappoints me about that site is the button that reads “Download the Correct Map”. They destroyed all their credibility with one word.

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        8 days ago

        It’s almost two entire sections, with just a little of North America, Asia, and Antarctica. And then some on four others. It’s obvious from a glance, no other body of water or land mass comes anywhere near that.

        And if you still don’t think that’s vast enough, maybe a lifetime of bad projections have given you a distorted view of the Pacific’s size. Mercator and Mercator like projections definitely make the Pacific look much too large near the poles.

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    Faithfully projecting a globe onto a flat surface is impossible and all projections have to balance a number of compromises. Mercator retains compass directions and the shapes of land masses but entirely sacrifices relative scale between equatorial regions and polar regions. This makes it great for navigating a 17th century vessel. Other projections strike a different balance, like this one, and sacrifice compass direction and land mass shapes in order to perfectly retain scale. On this map, my little Arctic island looks like someone stepped on it.

    IMO a balanced projection will compromise on all the nice properties a projection can have, and if that isn’t acceptable, then get a globe.

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      9 days ago

      The site has several pretty bad design issues. Aside from not having an image of the thing they’re trying to convince you to support, the page is unreadable in dark mode, and uses a laggy mouse cursor that feels like I’m back on Geocities.

      You’d think that, given the nature of this project, that these sorts of optics would be something that team would be more capable of handling.

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      7 days ago

      You can get this with a few clicks

      Equal Earth is an equal-area (equivalent) projection. Shapes, directions, angles, and distances are distorted and stretched north-south in tropical and mid-latitude areas. Nearer the poles, features are compressed in the north-south direction. Distortion values are symmetric across the equator and the central meridian.

      and there’s a paper but the link requires access

      Edit: I never said it was enough.

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    By signing the petition you take a stand against a false narrative that downplays Africa’s vast size and diversity as the second-largest continent, reducing its perceived importance in global politics and economics. You can correct the narrative.

    I’ll be real here, I have no idea what these people are talking about. The way Africa looked on maps has never had any bearing on my or probably anyone’s thinking of how important the continent is in global politics or economics. If someone thinks “country/continent looks small so they must be unimportant,” they are either a child or a fool. Or both.

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldOP
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      9 days ago

      I somewhat agree, Africa never looked small imo. However Russia, Greenland, Canada etc are so comically oversized that it absolutely makes a difference imo.

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        Its a distorted representation of what the Earth looks like, and regardless of the way the sphere of our Earth is displayed on a 2D plane, it will always be distorted.

        I don’t see any tangible benefit from changing what has already worked and is globally accepted for many decades. It seems kinda nitpicky, or like these people are clout chasing or something.

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      The way Africa looked on maps has never had any bearing on my or probably anyone’s thinking of how important the country is in global politics or economics.

      Africa isn’t a country though, it’s a continent with dozens of independent, distinct and diverse countries in it.

      And one possible impact of the continent being represented much smaller than it really is, is people thinking of Africa as a single country.

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      8 days ago

      The fact that you say Africa is a country kind of speaks against your argument here, wouldn’t you say?

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      it’s a pretty common talking point. and he people most likely to look at maps nowadays are indeed children.

      • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        it’s a pretty common talking point.

        Not common enough, apparently.

        I have never in my life ever heard anyone equate the size of a country on a map to its importance to global politics and economics. And I am old enough to remember when you had to hang up the phone before you could use the internet.

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          9 days ago

          let me rephase; it’s a pretty common talking point when discussing map projections. has been since the 50s.