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      If you don’t like the 14th amendment, push for a new amendment to repeal it. If you really believe trump didn’t engage in insurrection, push for congress to exonerated him with a 2/3 vote of the house as provided for in the 14th amendment.

      Trump, and anybody else, cannot ignore constitutional restrictions on office just b cause he’s popular.

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      It’s how the constitution works though. Are you saying the 14th amendment doesn’t apply to the president?

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        I think due process requires he be convicted first. They really need to get to work on that side of the problem.

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      The same would happen if your 18, not a naturally born citizen, or just didn’t meet the various state requirements for the primary.

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      If he is allowed to run for election, what prevents next candidate from hiring mafia to terrorize polling places?

      There is a reason constitution has insurrection clause in it and what clown and his people did fits perfectly to the provisions under it. Not using 14th amendment is an open invitation for dictatorship.

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        Not using 14th amendment is an open invitation for dictatorship.

        That argument only works if what you want to achieve is not a dictatorship.

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      No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

      So unless Congress votes for him to be on the ballot, he shouldn’t be on the ballot

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      It’s not what we think, it’s what he did.

      Traitors, traditionally, receive no quarter. He should be walked to edge of a cliff and shot, if we are going by the “historical traditions of the US” as this SCOTUS has apparently mandated.

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      This is how elections work for everyday criminals, and if people are being imprisoned for the actions of Trump, then why is Trump exempt from those rules?

      Criminals cannot vote except in select states. And it isn’t like the people haven’t fought for those rights. Republicans have put stops to them.

      This is more of a problem of Republican policy, eating at Republican actions.

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        There’s nothing stopping a convicted criminal from running, so long as they meet the usual requirements. Unless the crime is insurrection, where the 14th amendment kicks in. And Trump participated in Jan 6th so he’s out.

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        This is not the correct interpretation. There’s only insurrection that can get your banned - and that’s exactly what he did.

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          There’s only insurrection that can get your banned

          Could you please elaborate on this? I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

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            Okay so they typed “your” instead of “you” but the fact remains that there’s one action which can cause you to be banned from becoming President (or a congressperson) and that action is insurrection. It was perfectly clear.

            Other disqualifications (age, birthplace) aren’t under one’s control. Insurrection is a CHOICE.

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          Still need to follow due process. If he is guilty (and he probably is), you’ve got to convict him.

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      Yes it is… The Constitution says so. I’m sorry you don’t like it, but those are the binding rules.

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          Notice that it was an insurrection long before anyone knew Trump would be trying to run for office again.

          He realized he was going to lose the election, tried to steal it, failed, and then tried to keep office even though he had lost the election. It was an absolute embarrassment to the country and the man is a disgrace. The fact that anyone wants to vote for him is a testament to how well the media is at getting people to think what they want.

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      Care to expand on your statement?

      alleges that Trump was an “insurrectionist” and cites that he isn’t legally eligible to hold office under state and federal law

      This individual is asking the court to make a determination in whether Trump is eligible based on his involvement in January 6. That’s his right as a citizen, regardless of what you think of it.