It’s going to take multiple election cycles to achieve the replacement of the Dem leadership and purge the “consultants”, and if we ever get close to accomplishing that you bet your ass there will be political assassinations, and ultimately the party will self destruct rather than hand power over to real progressives.
The Democratic Party IS a right-wing apparatus, they work in tandem with the Republicans to serve the rich, the ratchet effect is real.
You had me in the first half, I was just about to ask you to read some Rosa Luxembourg. Yeah, the democratic party cannot be reformed
The conservative democratic party needs to die, just like Maga.
The conservative democratic party has to hang on long enough to splinter the GOP, and then chase the MAGA people off to their own third-party. Get them registered and on the ballot in all 50 states and then swing the Democratic party as far left as you can reach. You’ll chase the conservative Democrats back to the now-maga-free GOP.
Do it right, Maga is a permanent 20-25% minority party that spends its time in purity fights with the GOP 20-25%, while the worker-focused Democrats run the table through blue america at 50-60%. We can negotiate things like a union vs the GOP bosses, with MAGA trash screaming culture wars into the void.
Now is the time kick out the conservatives out of the democratic party. They can join the GOP where they belong.
The democrats need to build on democratic socialism policies. It’s the only thing that has won them elections in the last 35 years. Pity they betrayed their voters each time and that is why the US got Trump.
The overton window on the democrats have been pushing right for so long the GOP has nowhere to stand except on fascism.
The approval ratings of the conservative democrats are even lower than Trump right now. Now is the time to get rid of them. Before January.
Congrats, you just lost the 2028 election.
Keep voting with emotions like this and we’re never going to fucking win anything.
People think being right early is satisfying? They should try it some time.
We refer to it as the curse of foresight.
The hand is so blurry I thought it was a nub
Second pic is me when I freaked out about the Gaza genocide
My family kinda thought I was overreacting/focusing on the wrong thing, because they were more focused on October 7th itself
Later they realized it’s a genocide which I’m glad about, though I never did hear that I was right all along
Probably best if I just keep my mouth shut
Probably best if I just keep my mouth shut
Nah, you did the right thing. You’ll know it all the way to your grave.
Speaking up for marginalised people is a duty of those of us with less dire problems.Each person’s contribution may feel futile, meaningless, and insignificant but “no rain drop believes itself responsible for the flood” applies to positive things too.
Later they realized it’s a genocide which I’m glad about,
I dont understand what you mean by this?
It scans really poorly lmao.
I’m assuming they “later they realized it’s a genocide, which I’m glad about (the realization not the genocide)”
You can really see the bots flex on the reddit threads about replacing Schumer.
It sucks for neurodivergent people that see those patterns sooner than other people. Cassandra is my spirit animal.
If caring whether what I believe is true and being a less easy mark for peer pressure and local propaganda makes me neurodivergent,
then neurodivergent hi-five I guess.
On the flip side, it’s probably nice for the neurodivergent people who struggle with pattern recognition!
“woke is back! god is nonbinary! mandatory sex changes for everyone!” they say as they pass waves of anti-trans legislation in blue states
and for the rest of the world, only the colours of the bombs will change. welcome to the new normal, same as the old normal
Wish I could upvote this twice. Well said.
The bombs will continue to be painted OD green.
Pink–for solidarity.
the twitter users making jokes specifically to just piss off conservatives are also passing the laws, eh?
The dumbass libs celebrating the blue wave by posting or reposting those takes, while gleefully voting for genociders, running defence for them and then going back to brunch, are certainly part of the reason why the democrats can get away with expanding ICE concentration camps without the outcry we see under a trump admin.
Hey that’s unfair maybe they just run Harris again or Josh Shapiro.
I’m still hoping for a Clinton/Clinton ticket
How about you meet us in the middle: Newsom/Schumer.
/s
I read on the Internet he’s got sex appeal!
Chelsea/Hillary or Hillary/Chelsea?
Dealers choice
So are they going to try “actually americans hate free healthcare and love war, that’s why Gavin is the most electable” or “Gavin will be the most progressive president since FDR!!”
Somehow both. It worked so well with Harris
They’ve got some dipshit liberals in the rest of the country cheering for his damn tweets, convinced he’s their champion against Trump. The DNC will torpedo anyone else’s campaign to make way for their little princeling. The actual message doesn’t really matter.
DNC: “It votes blue no matter what, or else it gets the hose again.”
Already doing it. Spinning that 2026 was a victory for moderates
It’s always like that. If they win it’s proof they don’t need the left and shouldn’t listen to the left, if they lose then it’s because of the left. All the blame, none of the credit.
Neera Tanden is already doing this, just isn’t naming Newsom specifically
I hate her a lot.
AOC
My understanding of AOC from discussing her with DSA people is that we’re kind of mixed on her being the candidate. Obviously she’s good on a lot of issues, but she’s also buckled on some important things like weapons for Israel. I doubt she’s a straight up Zionist, but we need to know that the person most visibly representing the movement is going to not back down on red line issues just for political expediency.
I think I’d probably still vote for her personally over another neolib if she’s our best shot in the primary, but it would be nice if we could get someone a bit more principled/someone with more of a spine. We have two years to figure this out. Let’s not wait until it’s too late and have to settle. That said, it’s not gonna be easy. The criteria of a person born in the US, over the age of 35, with enough name recognition to plausibly run a national campaign, and wants to run while still being a principled leftist is gonna make it tough to find someone in time.
AOC voted to stop the rail unions from striking.
She should run for Senate do that couple of terms or at least one. Then run for president.
What she should do is turn herself over to HAMAS or some sort of palestinians peoples’ court.
If we’re talking getting elected then I dont know. Its not like any of that shit matters as long as you have the machine behind you. The media was calling Biden the most progressive president since JFK and making Harris out to be some feminist POC activist. Hillary became the “most qualified candidate ever” on the back of a short career as a senator and a term as foreign secretary where she created open-air slave markets and laid the ground work for all the bullshit that’s making eggs so expensive now.
Material reality does not matter when you have cultural hegemony.Agreed. I’d be happy to vote for her as president. I just think shes still young and can do alot more good work in congress before being president and essentially retired after.
At least there’s always the possibility of a sex scandal taking Newsom down. Seems exceedingly likely to me. Fingers crossed.
Biden killed MeToo when Tara Reade spoke up, sex scandals mean nothing.
I hadn’t heard of this, I looked it up, and Jesus Christ. The wikipedia article on the topic was clearly written by the most misogynistic liberal they could find. I know it makes no sense, they don’t see us in the global south as people so of course I understand they’re monsters, but imagine still supporting Biden after shit like this is public.
Even on the fediverse, speaking up about tara reide during the last election cycle, would get you banned from the liberal / correct the record fediverse servers.
#MeToo gets dropped immediately as soon as it exposes US democrats as being part of the same epstein class.
Other fun fact you might not know: Biden expanded ICEs budget and concentration camps
Biden admired and gave an eulogy for Strom Thurmond who defended racial segregation.
He also lied to Anita Hill and told her he’d allow her to speak at Clarence Thomas’s confirmation hearing, and then shafted her. Citizens United passed by one supreme court vote, and thomas is the quintessential “originalist” on the court who has led this country down a dark path for decades. Biden also was the father of civil asset forfeiture, a cheerleader to go into Iraq, and he drafted the 1994 crime bill, which packed our prisons with 6x the people it used to have, many for silly nonsense. He couldnt even win his home state all the times he ran for president, and once had to drop out of a presidential campaign for plagerizing a speech. He’s a colossal idiot of epic proportions, even before you get to his taking AIPAC bribes through his whole career to aid and abet a genocide of innocents. He belongs in chains, and then sent on to Nuremberg where he should spend the rest of his days in a cell… at best.
sorrryyy he’s the most progressive president since fdr and history began on october 7th 2022 anything before that didnt happen
since we’re doing fun facts, did you know Nuremberg was a farce and there was more nazis in the west german government than the actual nazi government?
And the same Libs who’ll blandly say they believe women when discussing Christine Blasey-Ford will call Tara Reade a lying Russian Asset™ and dismiss her entire story. A story which has exactly as much evidence in its favor as Dr Blasey-Ford’s.
Even more so. And when she went through ‘the proper channels’ to report the incident they ruined her fucking life. And then they pointed to the wreckage and attacked her character over it.
What century do you think you’re in? Unless Gavin Newsome fucked kids on camera in public with multiple witnesses he’s not getting taken down by a sex scandal.
Biden groped kids on live TV and raped Tara Reade, he was allowed to run in 2020 and fuck up 2024.
I think Dem candidates will be wall-to-wall in 2028, so it may not take all that much to knock his campaign off course compared to his rivals. Unfortunately, I highly doubt that means the Dems will instead put forward a reasonable candidate.
Responding to second pic: Then when you try to tell them the next thing they still won’t listen to you.
I had trans friends that I kinda spooked before Trump got elected the first time. I told them that the trans community was going to be left in the wind by the liberal establishment and that they needed to arm themselves and create support and protection networks. They kinda distanced themselves for a bit, but now we go out to the range together all the time.
A good chunk of people will start paying attention, maybe a little late, but better late than never.
Remember that whole voting thing everybody was excited about last week? Yeah so long as everybody keeps doing that and doesn’t vote for the chode we’ll be fine. If a majority votes for the chode… nothing we can do. But I have a feeling people are starting to listen to more progressive sources of news. I have hope.
Thoughts?
The policies and murders you seemingly oppose are driven by people who would prefer you argue amongst yourself about who’s doing the better job of opposing. The people that hold the viewpoints you despise and have promoted the policies that you reference sent hundreds of millions of dollars to stop the rise of progressive thought through elections. Those people wouldn’t give away a single nickel unless they thought it was absolutely necessary. So the more you guys fight about affecting change through means other than elections, instead of trying to ensure that representatives who agree with you are put in power, the more those you seemingly oppose win.
It’s easy to sit on your couch and complain. It’s hard to do the work and get people elected that agree with you. So my thoughts are this: people in the .ml community that have responded to my comment do more damage to their own apparent cause than good.
Thanks for the well written reply. Unfortunately I’m gonna go ahead and disagree. The faster America collapses the better off the rest of the planet and its inhabitants will be.
You literally cannot stop yourselves from doing genocide, illegal wars, imperialism, and climate destruction. You have run out of chances to fix this, because you literally cannot fix this, lol.
Death to America 🤗
The practical implication of your goal is that you want America to become even more fascist and unhinged. You would prefer that they degrade into supervillan levels of depravity as opposed to reforming themselves to become a more progressive influence in the world? That take is like standing naked on a field and screaming at the sun because you have a sunburn.
That take is like standing naked on a field and screaming at the sun because you have a sunburn.
But your analogous takeaway seems to be that we should be helping the people who are setting up the solar-reflectors and pointing them at us.
I don’t care what happens within your own borders when you’re literally genociding multiple countries at once, lol. You need to be sanctioned out of existence and balkanized by the rest of the world. And if that doesn’t work, you need to be put down militarily like Nazi Germany. The faster we all come to this conclusion, and its happening faster than ever, thanks to trumps mask off approach to the normal fascist actions of America, the better.
You think the country founded on genocide, slavery, imperialism, and war can be a force for progressive good? You’ve had 250 years to figure it out buddy, and your experiment was a fucking resounding failure.
Again, death to America ✌️.
“Nothing we can do” says Lib in honor of their tradition of doing nothing
DiDnT rEaLiZe ThE iNsTancE i WaS oN!!
Every ShitLib who definitely knew which instance they were on, upon finding out that the commies know more about whatever subject is at hand than they do and it’s not even close.
Crimestop is all they have.
You know, that succinct paragraph from their favourite propagandist fiction writer you can tell they never read because they only quote the slogans.I saw a comment under a "I’m new to Lemmy, " post that said watch out for the communists.
Why? What are they going to do?
Put a thought in your brain you can’t ignore or refute.What are they going to do?
Put a thought in your brain you can’t ignore or refute.A truly terrifying concept for the Lib mind
Your daily reminder that BlueMAGA liberals don’t consider non-Americans human
Astute observation citizen, it is just the one chode that is the issue. Now that you have done your civic duty of Participating In Democracy ™ go back to brunch, The Good Guys (C) are in control and the system is fixed
Anyway Biden expanded ICEs budget and the concentration camps. More palestinians died under Biden. The Biden admin was preparing for the same war with Iran that Trumps admin is pursuing.
I thought the Biden admin was gearing up for a “pivot to China” in terms of their fascist warmongering? I know they would fuck with Iran too eventually, either way.
I think their main thing was doing whatever Israel asked of them
Fair point
This assumes the chodes announce themselves, which has not historically been the case in the democratic party.
This assumes Voting ™ once every two years is in any way sufficient to change the system that is the fascist duopoly of the US.
