• Arancello@aussie.zone
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        The french are protesting against education funding. And americans wont get off the couch to rescue their own country.

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          Mobs are easier to form when your entire country is the size of a single US state and everyone who wants to participate in the country is within a day of driving to the same location. Your people aren’t less willing to be fucked over by the government. It’s just easier for the small percentage of you who will riot to meet up.

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            And most countries don’t have a police force more heavily armed than a small country’s military.

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              Decades of no accountability and poor hiring practices have made the police thugs against their citizen peers. Funded by the have nots, while protecting the haves and themselves.

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          Eh. Honestly, I think it’s pretty likely both incidents in which someone got “close” were probably false-flags. Orangeboi is a complete coward. I genuinely think he’d piss his pants and run away screaming if it was a real attempt on his life. There are a number of very suspicious points to the rally event in particular.

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            So this coward you speak of agreed to allow a teenager to fire a rifle at him from 350’? And Joe Biden’s USSS, who he had purged of MAGA agents, and Joe Biden’s FBI (who agreed Trump was dinged by a rifle round or fragment) were in on it?

            Watch him when they pull him up seconds after we hear the “all clear”. He is fucking stunned. Couple of photographers angle in for a shot (lemmy tells they were in on it as well), Trump sees the first thing he understands, “Cameras on ME!”, and does the fist pump.

            And all those USSS agents who were demoted or fired, and both shooters, all agreed to upend their careers and lives for…?

            Or we could just admit that a couple of dudes shot their shot at the most reviled man in America, possibly and all-time hatred in American politics.

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            Yeah, i am extremely suspicious that the two incidents where people got the closest were completely fabricated false flags. The rally one in particular was so, so sketchy, and so many details simply do not make sense at all.

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            Do not let perfection be the enemy of good.

            Vance does not have any of the charisma nor the following that Trump has. His ability to coalesce a ruling party is low. It’s why Trump is still in power.

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              The bigger issue as I see it is that Trump wants to rule by charisma first. I don’t think Vance particularly gives a shit if people curse his name - meaning that, at the first sign of things getting out of hand, I think he’s more willing to hit the “start killing protestors until the streets are red” button.

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              Yep! Add in that what’s left of MAGA will viciously turn on Vance for all the things they could bring themselves to pin on Trump. Vance’ll be a copegoat.

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            With no charisma or leverage to get anything extreme done. It isn’t their daughter in law that controls the GOP and is able to fund primary challengers.

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              You think they’d impeach the younger smarter asshole who wants to hurt their enemies?

              No fucking way. The Republicans want this. Trump is only useful for his distraction otherwise they would have stopped musk.

              Plus it gives them an incumbent to run in 2028 (if they aren’t already planning to run Trumps corpse again).

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                I didn’t say anything about impeachment. What would matter if they did anyway? A presidential impeachment has never ended in consequences. No, they just want have the ability to jam through controversial bills or wars. Congress won’t just go along with them.

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                They’d be morons to run Vance in 2028. As sitting VP he can’t fill a high school auditorium.

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                  They’d be morons to run Vance in 2028

                  Only if the US still has legitimate elections. Guess we’ll see during the midterms.

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      The ultraconservative cabal behind his back who wants their schemes signed and greenlit. They have to keep their puppet alive.