The comments have went so far off the rules (and rails). Locking, because mods volunteer, and we’ve been flooded with reports for this post thread alone.
The tankies seem incapable of reckoning with the fact that an informed citizen can vote for the lesser of two evils (usually fairly easily) and also take other action like boycotts protests and community organizing etc. I also don’t believe most of the keyboard communists actually do jack shit to fight back, aside from impotent online rage.
It’s even worse than that. Most of them are incapable of understanding any kind of nuance. To them every issue is black or white. And everyone who doesn’t agree with every single point on their extremist agenda is an identical enemy.
And Lemmy (or at least certain instances on Lemmy) is infested with them. Which means they go around in clusters, swarming anyone on the other instances who doesn’t conform with their impractical ideology and blinkered views.
Edit: Ooh, looks like they found my comment! Just wanted to add a special note to them: grow the fuck up!
And let your instance admins know you’d like them to defederate! There’s a good chance they might also want to but don’t want to force the decision upon their users.
My instance defederated both Hexbear and db0 and it’s crazy how much more emotionally mature the vibe is without those users.
Putting your instance on highest ranking if I plan to migrate.
I think their instance admin was the guy behind the tesseract scandal a few months ago, might want to look into that if you haven’t heard of it.
Basically snuck a hidden blob into a “small” update that shadowbans a bunch of users and keywords. Doesn’t sound that bad on the surface, but the implementation was really shady, the blacklist itself was sloppily constructed, and the way he handled the fallout when people called him out on it was really immature.
If I have this confused with a different instance, then my bad. I think he’s involved with sh.itjustworks at a fairly high level too though.
There’s a couple graphics floating around somewhere mapping defederations of major instances if you want alternatives. I’ll see if I can dig them up.
actually i have that account tagged as the admins sock puppet
I was on that list of banned users!
I’ll look into, thanks
Not a priority but have thought about migrating.
I found this one. I thought I had the other one too but I must have forgotten to save it. But anyway here you go:
Dang I knew this was a honeypot thread I didn’t realize it was for THAT.
I’m still upset that you guys managed to sucessfully bully a developer into deleting his (free) project (that had like 10 users), because now his blocklist has to be rebuilt manually, thankfully so many of you out yourselves and make it easy to report.
Oh, you’re the guy I was talking about? Hahaha, I didn’t even realize, but now you’re glowing.
You reported me for an objective delivery of the facts, as I understand them? Sure, don’t care.
Next time be more honest about the diffs in your “free” software updates, and handle things a bit more maturely when people take notice of the unethical payloads you hide behind “security patches.”
If telling you that is “bullying” you, then you need thicker skin. In fact you’re suspiciously bordering on DARVO, a common tactic among narcissists. (Not calling you a narcissist, by the way. Just pointing out how your response resembles how one would react).
Oh by the way, did I just make the tesseract ban list? If so, I’ll consider it an honor.
If I was the guy do you think I would let you Kiwi Farms jerks know my new account?
The pissbabies took offense to your comment.
Most of them are incapable of understanding any kind of nuance. To them every issue is black or white.
posted on a thread making a black and white caricature about all marxists and anarchists as ‘tankies’
You’re telling on yourself. I just said tankies, if you choose to identify with that, and make it about all marxists and anarchists, that’s on you.
Yeah, people need to stop conflating MLs with Marxists, because Leninism and Marxism are not the same thing at all.
Leninists appropriated the “Marxist” label to lend credibility to their own ideology. Hence it’s “Marxist-Leninism,” not “Leninist-Marxism.”
Nobody is out there calling actual Marxists “tankies.” We’re calling MLs tankies, and then they retreat behind a mote and bailey by saying “yOuR cAlLiNg AlL mArXiStS tAnKiEs?!1?1?!1?1??1?1!!”
Also, “tankie” is a term I exclusively hear used by the left to refer to their own fringe (who, by the way, refer to the rest of the left as “liberals” and “fascists” for not being as extreme as them…). It’s like the left-wing version of maga. They’re completely irrational, bad-faith, militant, and authoritarian.
I never hear centrists, liberals, or conservatives call anybody a “tankie.” To them, the entire left are all just “commies,” because that’s the pejorative they use. They don’t need the term “tankie,” because the entire point of that term is to differentiate between the irrational, extremist fringe of the left, and the rest of us leftists who are capable of both rational thought and empathy (crazy idea, I know…), and are typically somewhere in the democratic range of the socialist spectrum.
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(Although I’ll add that anarchists exist among us reasonable socialists too, but that’s a very broad term and some self-declared “anarchists” truly are actually authoritarian tankies, which becomes clear when you listen to the things they say and how they handle disagreement.
Conversely, some “anarchists” are also actually neofeudal capitalist/corporatist fascists cosplaying as freedom fighters when all they really want is deregulation of industry…).
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‘tankies bad, i’m not a tankie, anyone who disagrees with me is a tankie’
hate to break it to you but liberals learned a new word and it’s just a left-facing pejorative now.
‘youre a librul lobrul bad, you jerk off the markets don’t you.anyone who disagrees with me is a librul.’
if they’re pro capitalist it’s just describing their position, sorry that the term offends you
^ that, friends is what we call a “bad-faith argument” based on a distorted interpretation of what was actually said, utilizing flashy one-liners to deride a commenter without actually addressing any of the content of the comment they made.
it’s called paraphrasing, you wanted to make it very clear that you’re one of the good ones for the liberals, as opposed to tankies who are the bad ones. i don’t think i misrepresented you.
the term is literally a left facing pejorative the way it’s used, especially how you were using it.
Cowbs there is fully ideological and fails to reconcile his understanding of classroom theory with real world application. Fucker genuinely believes the cow is a perfect sphere and is a bad faith propagandist. He’ll probably report my comment too because he’s a little bitch that just gish gallops bullshit and pivots every time you pin him down. You’re wasting your time. Their whole account is dedicated to getting republicans in power.
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Who’s generalizing now?
i’m just being observant, an overwhelming amount of people calling others ‘tankies’ are perfectly fine with team blue sending in the tanks/bombs/drones.
No not really, I am way left of Biden, universal Healthcare, free community College, strong social safety net etc. are not radical left ideas, they are centrist.
I also know enough about history to understand that power systems formed around Marxism communism or anarchism are not inherently good or just when put into practice.
I despise the wholesale slaughter of civilians by the military industrial complex, I also despise the violent crushing of dissent by ‘communist’ or ‘socialist’ governments.
A good and just society will always be a mix of different ‘isms’ and marxism definitely needs to be a prominent part of the mix. I’m against total ideological purity, be it capitalist imperialism that can justify industrialized human suffering, or naive tankie bullshit that can justify being on the side of the tanks in Tiananmen square.
You’re a dumbass. Liberals don’t even know what a tankie is, let alone call anyone that.
“Tankie” is what rational socialists call the irrational people on the extreme fringes of the left who are incapable of arguing in good faith, like you for instance.
Liberals don’t even know what a tankie is, let alone call anyone that.
lmao have you been on the internet in the last few years? it’s their latest word that they learned.
the reality is that ‘tankie’ is one of those terms that gets stretched until it’s just a pejorative for anyone to the left of the person using it.
No, that’s not even true. You’re just calling anyone a liberal who calls you a tankie, so clearly it’s only liberals using the term from your perspective. That’s called mental gymnastics.
Also,
the reality is that ‘
tankieliberal’ is one of those terms that gets stretched until it’s just a pejorative for anyone to theleftcenter of the person using it.FTFY
I don’t see any anarchists in this comic what are you talking about? Maybe the person voting…
Maybe the person voting…
If you don’t think anarchists vote then you do not know what anarchism is.
well i’m an anarchist and i literally vote in every primary and every year for municipal/nonpresidential elections, so it was nice to have you identify me correctly.
what was funny to me is that this comic is so dishonestly framed, like take panel 1, my trans comrades have already been getting arrested by democrats for protesting their abandonment of trans kids healthcare in favor of institutions and placating trump. ‘i don’t want to arrest trans people’ is clearly not the same as ‘i won’t arrest trans people’.
the way the comic is structured is like actually nonsensical too, the person being anti-voting says stuff after the vote has already been cast, and then when it fails we’re supposed to blame the those two? i blame the democrats for losing more than i do voters.
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Literally no one above you conflated anarchists and marxists with tankies.
Imagine playing victim about something no one said. The very definition of “strawman.”
‘tankies’ is such a broadly defined pejorative at this point and it absolutely does cover anarchists the way liberals use it.
Are these Liberals in the room with us right now?
You can make any argument you want when you imagine words to mean whatever you need them to mean.
yeah, this whole fucking thread
Can’t argue with reactionaries mate. They don’t engage in good faith.
“liberals” is such a broadly defined pejorative at this point and it absolutely does cover democratic socialists the way tankies use it.
if they are pro capitalism, yes it does; i know many communists/marxists who are also in DSA that the label does not apply to.
If the… democratic socialists… are… pro-capitalism…?
Let’s examine that statement. Does it make any sense?
Are you perhaps confusing democratic socialists with social democrats? Because those are different things, if you didn’t know…
Tankies aren’t Marxist or anarchists. Tankies are eastern imperialists and statists that like to call themselves Marxist.
“Tankie”, as used in online discourse, just means “person to my political left making an argument I can’t refute”.
That is completely false and you know it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
It is about shilling for authoritarian dictatorships like Russia and China.
Sure, if your definition of “shilling for” is “rejecting US State Department narratives about”.
Otherwise, it’s like I said, it means “person to my political left making a point I can’t refute”.
No, it means someone who would really love living in a dictatorship as long as the dictator was Xi Jinping, Stalin, or Kim Jong Un.
Yes, that’s the hyperbolic slander it tries to assert when in reality it is just a buzzword for imbeciles to use when they want to stop engaging with the argument.
Authoritarians are authoritarians, they just like different flavors of boot.
Parenti wrote about you thirty years ago. Chapter 3 of that book is all about you.
okay then please tell that to everyone calling me a tankie plsss
the reality is that ‘tankie’ is one of those terms that gets stretched until it’s just a pejorative for anyone to the left of the person using it.
started as a specific reference to people who defended the soviet invasion of hungary in 1956, then it gets applied to anyone who doesn’t denounce every socialist state on demand, now it’s anyone who doesn’t want to vote for biparitsan war consensus
Sister, you’re the one that decided that OP was lumping the anarchists and Marxists in with the tankies! You appear to be trying to claim that OP is portraying everyone who says ‘both sides are the same’ as tankies. A is a subset of B; B is not equal to A. Just because some people don’t actually understand what ‘tankie’ means doesn’t mean everyone shares that view, in the same way that ‘liberal’ doesn’t actually mean ‘everyone who votes Democrat’.
You appear to be trying to claim that OP is portraying everyone who says ‘both sides are the same’ as tankies
he is tho
in the same way that ‘liberal’ doesn’t actually mean ‘everyone who votes Democrat’.
yeah plenty of liberals are also republicans
Okay, now I know you’re just trolling.
Well, you come from an instance where the rules are literally pro-authoritarian, so yeah people are gonna assume you’re a tankie as well.
What are your thoughts on North Korea?
it’s a heavily sanctioned garrison state that emerged from a brutal colonial occupation and a war that killed a third of the population.
i dont particularly care for any states, but i have special contempt for the US. that makes it hard to share in the fearmongering about the US’s designated enemies on the other side of the planet from where i live.
Well, you didn’t describe them as brave freedom fighters trying to maintain true democracy in spite of western fascism, so that’s a good sign.
In retrospect, I probably should have asked you about authoritarianism.
Tankies are the ideological opposite and intellectual equivalent of libertarians. Like if you’re in high school it’s ok to dabble but if you maintain those viewpoints into adulthood you probably weren’t top of your class and you definitely weren’t popular. Ideology for dumb assholes.
These people are really like swarms of mosquitoes and Lemmy is somehow infested with them.
Not sure where these people exist IRL or at all. So weird …
I’ve said it in another comment but I’m pretty sure most lemmings genuinely believe that the cow is a perfect sphere. Lemmy US political discourse is fuckin garbage.
Let’s be straight here: the likliest scenario is that Lemmy was explicitly created for the purpose of giving tankies a platform to spread misinformation and hate. It is the Nazi bar.
Fortunately, it also has instructions on how to build your own bar, with built-in methods to kick out the Nazis.
Nah, more like they found a small enough community that they could abuse with their relatively weak numbers. Also the fact that there’s no corporate backing to ban them and that’s by design. This is free speech in a nutshell. There’s a lot of people with really stupid political views.
grow the fuck up!
For a non zero chunk of them, this is about getting paid in Kremlin bucks.
To be honest, I think they only get Kremlin money indirectly in a form of propaganda, having everyone on a paycheck is way too expensive when you can make them work for free
And Lemmy (or at least certain instances on Lemmy) is infested with them. Which means they go around in clusters, swarming anyone on the other instances who doesn’t conform with their impractical ideology and blinkered views.
That’s why i switched to piefed. Out of sight, out of mind.
And a big problem with a lot of them is they antagonize you into saying shit they report you for. It’s not just about spreading propaganda, it’s about removing anyone that disagrees with it.
you are responsible for your own actions. you need to make sure your conduct is congruent with the community rules.
Their civility rules are fake. They will say the most vile, violent shit to you, and never have a comment removed. But suggest that their political strategies are stupid, and you get banned.
And most lemmy mods make reddit mods look fuckin reasonable.
Yeah. Many do. I was a mod for a few communities here for a while. Was in on the discord chats and such… not a thing I’d do again.
Oh you poor thing…
Ehh… it wasn’t horrific or anything, just not something I’d want to do again. Sometimes it’s best to not know how the sausage is made.
Hmm, I’ll have to look into that. Thanks.
Thats right. But I do understand where it comes from. Theo lesser Evil evolved to a downward spiral.
The less evil is bare minimum. And it sometimes feels like that politicians are more busy With being a bit better than the actual Evil, to still satisfy their own voters and trying to win the others. Better Take would be to actually improve stuff.
But yes. No vote will Just hand over the vote for the stronger party. So the less evil kinda ist the only option… and I rather Take that, than nothing
Half of internet Tankies are sockpuppets and the other half are under 25 years old. Any other category of Tankie is statistically insignificant.
Exactly. You shouldn’t treat voting for a politician as a marriage, you should treat politicians as a vehicle to get you to the place you want to be.
There almost never is an ideal candidate because everyone has different opinion what ideal candidate is. Even in countries where there are multiple parties most people don’t get exactly who they want.
If you want better choices you need to get more involved on politics, vote in primaries, vote in local elections, find and help candidates that are not popular but are closer to what you want or even run yourself.
If you don’t get involved at lower levels don’t be surprised the candidates in general aren’t what you want. Of you don’t vote, don’t be surprised that candidates ignore needs of your group.
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The majority of those keyboard communists are just paid russian propagandists trying to sow discord in every election.
Their opinion is literally worthless.
No, you gotta be lying. There certainly have been plenty of billionaires beheaded and police stations burned and politicians tarred and feathered.
Clearly theyre doing what they tell everyone else they should be doing.
Edit- triggered all those tough keyboard warriors with this evidently.
Hey, so as a trans person in Ohio, where both of my gubernatorial candidates hate trans people, it’s decidedly not an easy choice.
There wasn’t a Dem primary either.
Sorry to say, but reality doesn’t conform to your MS Paint meme :/
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I’ll take “we can’t govern”, please.
Seems you are the one posting divisive stuff a month before the election, but go off
“Remember you stupid tr#nnies, your job is to support the party, no matter how much the candidate we nominate hates you. Your job is to sit down, shut up, and get in line. We need your votes, not your voices. The correct time to oppose the TERFS is not during the first year’s primary (we let candidates hide their transphobia during the first primary.) It’s certainly not during the first general election. It’s during the primary, you stupid tr#nny!”
"Also, please be aware that it is irresponsible to primary a TERF democrat running for reelection in a purple district. We can’t give up an incumbent seat after all. You’ll just have to wait and vote SO HARDS until that district votes so overwhelmingly blue that it becomes a safe seat. Then it will be acceptable to primary the TERF we put forward. Also, please be aware that before running in that primary, your new candidate will first have to get passed the real primary, the money primary to decide who gets to be on the primary ballot. Ok, now that your role is clear, blue no matter who. Remember tr#nnies, you’re fabulous and we love you. And remember, if we lose, it’s all your fault and you deserve whatever laws are passed against you! Slay gurl! Hope this helps! Don’t forget to sign up to canvas for the terf as this year’s pride! 🥰 🥰 🥰 "
One, democrats have already demonstrated their lack of appetite to protect trans rights.
Two, it’s a hostage situation that allows the “left” party to do nothing by just not being the actual villain. It won’t win them elections and won’t actually help anyone. You can’t pretend you’re the good guy if you just stand there while the bad guy shoots the people who you claim you want to help.
Three, vote for the love of gods. I don’t care if they’re the lesser evil, we can still make them change and that’s better than active evil. Their strategy of hostage taking might be a losing one, but we can force them to become the actual good guys
Remember Trump’s last term?
Remember Biden coming in and turning around a really shitty situation?
Then remember all the leftists 'ree’ing at each other and saying Biden didn’t do anything?
I feel pretty confident saying a big reason Kamala Harris lost was because Joe Biden didn’t turn things around.
You probably shouldn’t feel confident in the future.
Let’s look at some numbers.
Biden’s last funding bill gave ICE 9.6 billion
Trump’s last funding bill gave ICE 28.9 billion
You are doing the thing in this post. Biden was bad, Trump was infinitely worse.
Obviously I would prefer ICE and DHS dismantled. But instead of the status quo we got the largest expansion ever
In addition, look at how enforcement was conducted. Due process. Warrants. No shooting protesters, no mass raids.
And all the other stuff trump has failed at which anyone could have done better by doing nothing at all.
“it’s okay guys, we performed state oppression of the working class with proper decorum. That totally makes it okay, right?”
Fuck off.
It’s called due process not decorum
I grant you, enforcing unjust laws isn’t ideal. But pull your head out of your ass, the air up there is killing your brain!
There’s worse ways to enforce bad laws. The rights of the accused is an older and more powerful revolutionary idea than whatever toothless shit “state oppression of the working class” is meant to represent, though it isn’t clear you understand the shape behind that shadow.
You’re embodying the joke here. Don’t let the fantasy of a perfect world that exists in your dream blind you to the realities of the one we’re in.
Many people do not see a functional difference between “enforcing unjust laws” by-the-book compared to “worse ways to enforce unjust laws” (I presume, based on the topic of this particular thread, that you’re alluding to whatever the fuck ICE is doing right now). Whether ICE nicely follows all the regulations while arresting and deporting an immigrant family, or they storm into the house of an immigrant family and beat them up before arresting and deporting them, the net effect is the same when observed from a certain level of abstraction.
To be clear, I personally think it’s clear that the scenario in which the immigrant family gets beat up is worse (as it results in the family being beat up, and the outcome is otherwise the same). However, if presented a “choice” between the two options it’s hard to see the first one as particularly compelling. It’s like asking “would you rather fracture your skull in a car crash, or fracture your skull in a car crash which also breaks your arm?”, it’s hard not to look at the two shitty choices and not be bitter that there isn’t a choice in which you don’t get hit by a car.
Harm reduction motherfucker. Or do you cut off your fuckin foot when you stub your toe? Fucks sake.
Remember Biden coming in and turning around a really shitty situation?
No lol what the fuck are you on about
He cancelled student debt and passed the infrastructure bill. Then the republicans fucked it all.
Covid lock downs and no toilet paper?
Supply chain issues every where.
January 2021 was wild.
Oh hey the whole gang is here. Blaming a worldwide pandemic and ridiculous panic buying on political lines? Jesus I almost thought we were going to have a reasonable conversation here. Lmao.
Trump dismantled government organizations dedicated to protecting Americans from pandemics and lied about the extent of it and what to do about it.
Or did you forget about that?
I’d chime in and add that trump and co actively tried to profit off of the pandemic, by confiscating PPE from states and then selling it back to their hospitals at a markup. They also wanted to let covid run rampant because they believed it would affect higher density blue states worse than the lower density red states.
Biden wasn’t great, but it cannot be understated how fucking evil the trump administration was.
Just so we’re clear you were responding to a post about Biden fixing things and you brought up these events in 2021 which was NOT during Trump’s term, so yes I am pretty sure you’re being disingenuous here and trying to derail the claim,
In Good faith I will respond that I do remember Trump disbanding the Pandemic reaponse team in… 2017/18? It was early on and a sign of things to come in regards to his willingness to just undo anything Obama had credit for.
And yet there were no government mandated lockdowns and the toilet paper rush was, as far as I can tell, not a cultivated psyop.
The. Fuck. Is. Your. Point.
I’m talking about how things were in January 2021.
Can you please fully read comments before you start commenting please?
I talk mad shit on the old fuck but he’s literally the only US president to end a war in my lifetime. That does count for a thing
If you’re talking about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, that was Trump.
Wild. By the time the area was vacated his admin was completely disavowing it and gave full “credit” to Biden. Guess I fell for some stupid shit and Biden can’t even claim that.
It’s like you made a point, and then a bunch of morons showed up to prove it in responses. I can’t believe how easy that was! 😂
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Biden overturned a Trump-era ban on trans people serving in the military and made it possible for U.S. citizens who do not identify as male or female to select an “X” as the gender marker on their passports.
Well, yes, but it’s his fault for everything Trump does, so, checkmate.
No it’s the American voter’s fault.
Wait are we for or against electoralism here, does it work or does it not?
Trump was voted in by people voting for him.
Say it fuckin louder for all the fuck-ignorant US Americans that don’t vote.
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Wait, so Biden couldn’t protect you from a future lawless government whose every branch is controlled by fascists? Foolish Biden.
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So having no control of the Senate, House, or the Supreme Court or the unilateral ability to pass laws, Biden failed to stop the fascists years into the future, and now it’s his fault that Republicans are violating the constitution?
Are you… okay?
I’m curious what kind of laws you think he (congress) should have created for trans people.
Are you just as upset that he didn’t create new laws to protect Muslims, immigrants, atheists, women, and leftists as well? Or do those laws already exist and are strong enough, but trans people are missing their specific protections?
Gotta love the schordinger leftist, simultaneously responsible for the Dems loosing and not significant enough for Dems to pander to.
Here is why no one on the progressive left likes Democrats.
And the fact everyone on the left gets called “liberals” in here shows this is probably a rightwing bs post
Democrats are not an opposition party. They just play one on tv, like professional tv wrestling. They take turns being the “heel” and the “hero”.
Anyway,
Hakeem secretly meets with Kushner who is a known traitor and foreign agent and also, officially, is an unelected official with no standing in the government. https://time.com/article/2026/08/24/hakeem-jeffries-private-meeting-with-jared-kushner-draws-backlash-ahead-of-midterms/
AIPAC Democrats are funding aipac Republicans over DSA and progressive candidates that are against blowing up children and innocents. This means no one of importance will be held meaningfully responsible for the destruction of our country. "Democratic Primaries: AIPAC’s super PAC, the United Democracy Project (UDP), spent $53.6 million in independent expenditures by August 2026, primarily to defeat Democrats like Abdul El-Sayed (Michigan) and Cori Bush (Missouri). In the 2024 cycle, AIPAC spent $24 million to unseat progressives in Democratic primaries. Republican Campaigns: AIPAC also supports Republicans, endorsing over 100 members of Congress who voted against certifying the 2020 election. However, its Republican spending is often directed against candidates AIPAC deems “insufficiently supportive” of Israel, such as Thomas Massie (KY) in 2026, whom UDP targeted with $3.58 million in opposition. Donor Overlap: A Politico report found that 46% of AIPAC donations to Democratic candidates in 2024 came from donors who had previously supported Republican causes or candidates since 2020, including GOP billionaires like Paul Singer and Haim Saban. "
Tammy Duckworth says that Dems shouldn’t be “impeaching nobody” and we should work with the pedophilic, traitorous, authoritarian who has broken more laws than exist.
https://youtu.be/Cm53m1L4Vas?is=qDThCb9RhXqqzxkl
No one likes the Dems and everyone knows that nothing will happen that causes any real change after they get elected. Everything we want will be on the back burner because “we don’t want another trump again”
Status quo doesn’t work anymore
Blue when in power: But boo hoo we are so powerless we cannot undo any of these anti-trans laws red put in place.
No one is saying that the Democrats and Republicans are the same. What we’re saying is that the Democrats allegience to the ruling class puts them in a position that makes them unable to deal with fascism, and the result is that their function as a political party is to defang otherwise radically leftist movements.
Joe Biden spent a record amount on ICE camps while the threat of fascism was obviously clear.
Biden continued building Trump’s border wall.
Joe Biden sat on his ass for 4 years and refused to prosecute Trump.
Democrats sat with their thumbs up their butts while Merrick Garland got flogged for scotus, and then turned around to immediately confirm Barrett.
Obama not only discovered Tom Homan, but awarded him with a medal when Homan devised a plan to separate migrant children from their parents at detention centers.
Every single dem senator voted to confirm Marco Rubio, who has obviously been one of the biggest champions of "immigration enforcement.
Democrats capitulated during the multiple government shutdowns.
Democrats blatantly shafted Bernie in 2016, and all but guaranteed Trump’s ascension.
Democrats refused to pull Biden out of the race and all but assured Trump’s second term.
Kamala promised to build the world’s most lethal military during an active genocide
Democrats, during a period of blistering inaction, rushed into action to censure Al Greene when he was rude.
I still can’t get over the fact that, in my party, the idea that someone might not have voted because of a genocide generates more anger and resentment than the party leaders being openly complicit in a genocide does.
I already give any democrat a free ‘harm reduction’ vote so I’ll be damned if they’re going to guilt trip me for being pro-Palestine and anti-genocide on top of it,
The fighting on this thread was completely and masterfully predicted and orchestrated by op. Bravo. A master craft lesson in left in fighting. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Cheers, utter contempt for anti-voting clowns wins the day!
Thank you for your service 🫡
Tankies aren’t left wing. They’re authoritarians.
Tankies are the (Hyper-)Auth-Left.
People can pick apart the 2D political compass all they want, but it’s definitely more useful than the 1D one.
Tankies are the intellectual equivalent and ideological opposite of libertarians. And nobody that isn’t in high school should be ascribing to either.
Bullshit. That’s a common conservative lie. Tankies are just conservatives in normal person’s clothing. Every view they espouse is ultimately in support of conservatism.
Conservatism is the opposite of progressivism. Authoritarianism is on the conservative side of the spectrum and the opposite side from progressivism. Progressives (the opposite of conservatives) are very clear in despising authoritarianism. In fact, antiauthoritarianism is foundational to progressivism.
Tankies try to gaslight the normal people into thinking nazis and fascists were progressives. Every tankie talking point is based on conservative talking points and common conservative lies. Tankies are just conservatives trying to gaslight everyone.
When tankies start gish-galloping about their slanted views of history and what labels apply to whom, it becomes clear they are conservatives. Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every. Word.
Again, you’re oversimplifying the complexities of human political thoughts to a literal single dimension. Cue the scene from Donnie Darko when Donnie is asked to put every human action somewhere on the Love-Fear Spectrum.
Tankies try to gaslight the normal people into thinking nazis and fascists were progressives.
I have never seen or heard a tankie make that argument; I’ve only heard it from MAGAs fairly recently - I saw it starting around a year ago.
It’s not complex. Conservatives are people who espouse conservative views. Tankies are conservatives who are pretending to be authoritarian leftists and claiming “it’s just too complex for dumb leftists to understand”. Conservatives are pathological liars and calling themselves tankies is just one example of that. Tankies go on the same smoldering pile of carcasses as the rest of the nazis.
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You’re really bending the definition of “conservative” here.
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“Tankie” is a negative exonym; I’ve never seen a tankie call themselves a tankie. See also “nazi;” they called themselves “national socialists.”
With respect, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about and should therefore butt out.
You are dead wrong on both points.
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Conservatives are simply those who espouse conservative positions. Tankies espouse conservative positions. They are the literal definition of conservatives.
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Nazis frequently call themselves nazis. In 1940’s Germany, you could be sent to a concentration camp for not identifying as a nazi. They used the word specifically. (Although in the 30’s, nazis often just referred to themselves as “conservatives”.) In the U.S., an official “Nazi Party” preceded WWII. A different American Nazi Party exists today and members still refer to themselvss explicitly as nazis. Proudly. In fact, there are currently several organizations whose members call themselves nazis or neo-nazis.
Conservatives are pathological liars. I do not respect my enemy, nor those who defend my enemy. So, without respect, “I don’t think you know what you’re talking about and should therefore butt out.”
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I like horseshoe theory but I would describe it differently. Once you get far enough right or left you reach a kind of political singularity where what you are really advocating for is authoritarianism, which will only give lip service at best to any ideology other than naked control of power. Communists, Nazis, Tsarists, Monarchists, they are all the same and they do not represent the people.
This. It’s why there’s very little difference between them and MAGAs. Both wouldn’t have problem sending tanks to murder protesters, both should be called tankies, honestly.
Authoritarianism and leftism are orthogonal concepts. You can be left and authoritarian, or right and not authoritarian.
Who needs COINTELPRO when we’ve got Godric?
It’s a true honeypot thread for all the accounts and instances to report to the admins.
Oh no, this is a community problem. I love this post. It should be shrined as an artifact for viewing for ages.
😑 report what? It’s a shitpost, if it’s bait can you really hold anyone accountable for the antics it provokes?
No I mean reporting all the comments from the annoying “leftists” who spring up every election and do everything in their power to make sure conservatives win.
Yeah this thread is great for the blocklist.
lmao I got called “Blue MAGA” for encouraging strategic voting just yesterday. I was a card carrying member of DSA before it was cool.
You can tell an election is coming up because all the bots and shills crawl out of the woodwork to start arguments between centrist Democrats and progressive leftists. I’m often disappointed by Status Quo Democrats but I’ll take a status quo that doesn’t work well enough for everyone over a lurch towards fascism that intends to claw back every right we’ve secured since the 1860’s and eagerly steal the territory and resources of middle powers… and do it all fucking incompetently.
Yes blue maga loves this kind of alienating liberal bullshit.
