• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    That strategy is only rational if you believe that voting progressive in the primary will create change faster than the status quo will kill us all.

    False. The best strategy is still the best strategy even if the outcome is still bad. Voting for a third party has a worse outcome. Not voting has a worse outcome. Despite voting for Dems still being a bad outcome, it is the least bad achievable outcome. Hence, harm reduction.

    And forty years of the party continually fucking off further right at the behear of it’s Wall St paymasters screams loudly that that belief is a fantasy, and your strategy is delusional.

    On the contrary, it screams loudly that protest voting is not only ineffective, it’s counterproductive. When they lose progressives, they don’t shift left, they shift right to try to get more centrists.

    You continue to hand power to the people making things worse faster and pretend your protest achieves something. It does not, the rightward shift of the Democrats screams this.

    • DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      Voting for a third party has a worse outcome. Not voting has a worse outcome

      Only if you’re a spoiled child incapable of thinking any further ahead than right now.

      In the king term your strategy has no chance of ever improving anything. Your best case outcome is “thing get much worse. But a little bit more slowly”.

      You’re clinging to the ratchet for fear of the wheel, when the only answer is to destroy the whole machine. Voting outside the duopoly or abstaining altogether offer even a slim chance of that. The good news is the chances get less slim with each person who gives up on the genocidal war party in disgust, so the numbers are shifting in ways that give me hope. In ankther cycle or two, when even more Dem voters realize that the DSA isn’t going to change anything either, I expect the rate of attrition for the Neoliberal ghouls to increase starkly.