• Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
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        22 hours ago

        Tell us where this magical land is where they pay you to have and raise kids. I will move there immediately.

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        23 hours ago

        Not equal to each other? Also raising children should be recognized, but that doesn’t necessarily point to a specific sex. Over the last century women didn’t quite have the same physical burden men had.

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          22 hours ago

          I love how people are putting so much emphasis on childBIRTH as if that isn’t getting easier every decade due to scientific advances. Like, I can at least take the carrying of the child for 9 months seriously, but ffs a lady from my nutso church popped a kid out a few hours before Sunday service and she showed up just fine.

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            I love how people are putting so much emphasis on childBIRTH as if that isn’t getting easier every decade due to scientific advances.

            I love it when people make it obvious they’ve never experienced something before but still want to speak like an authority on it.

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            21 hours ago

            I don’t know if I would exactly discount the whole thing. It’s certainly gotten better understood but I don’t know if it’s gotten any easier. The birth of our first child, which had some serious complications was an eye opener for sure, and I’m definitely witness to how badly the whole thing can wreck a woman’s body. Your anecdote about the church wife isn’t really appropriate here. There are certainly women who are just damn good, for whatever reason, at giving birth to children. Kind of a hidden talent, and more the exception than the rule.

            I’m just not sure if it all equals an entire adulthood of back breaking labor, or how much that even applies to today’s men. Things have changed, obviously.

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        23 hours ago

        You would discuss childbirth as a job? Like not as a part of the lifecycle of a mammal, or the job of an obstetrician, but the actual process of giving birth is an activity for hire that is done for lucrative income?

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          22 hours ago

          You would discuss childbirth as a job?

          Childbirth is literally referred to as “going into labor”. Like, Idk how else you would describe it if not nine months of hard work?

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            22 hours ago

            Sexual reproduction? Women are able to do things for themselves, are you telling me they get nothing out of being a mother? An activity that is difficult can exist without being called a job.

            Someone better inform the rest of the 120 60 billion mammals on the planet they better clock on and pick up their paycheck for their 9-5 jobs.

            Also, giving birth isn’t a re-ocurring activity one performs for their livelihood, it’s an event that someone goes through to achieve something, during a certain period of time under a week (ideally less than a day, but humans be bodying).

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                22 hours ago

                ok, you explain what a job is and why giving birth specifically is a job.

                not “being a home maker”, not “obstetrician”, giving birth.