• AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    I’m tired of this constant fuckai spam. AI slop this, AI slop that. AI slop impacts me almost not at all, while the constant hate mongering by fuckai is getting on my nerve.

    Not a SINGLE “AI artist” ever “looked at you like this”. You are building a strawman as the target of your hate because you can’t do anything else with it. Are we a society defined by hate now?

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      14 hours ago

      I am happy you life in your peaceful world, though, over here it’s impacting us a lot also

      Not a SINGLE “AI artist” ever “looked at you like this”. You are building a strawman as the target of your hate because you can’t do anything else with it. Are we a society defined by hate now?

      If it never happened to you, it doesn’t menat it doesn’t happen to anyone else

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        Give me one serious example of where someone demanded you call them an “AI artist” and then looked at you glaringly and it impacted your life in any way whatsoever. Seriously what are you even talking about.

        THIS is the big issue of our time? Instead of talking about actual actionable AI regulation all you fuckais can do is shit on imaginary strawmen. Wild.

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          Give me one serious example of where someone demanded you call them an “AI artist” and then looked at you glaringly

          Welp, i started ignoring all AI people so i don’t have any recent example but some time ago there was this dude who vibe coded all the software ““he made”” and i told him he didn’t made a shit, it was all AI doing and started harrassing me and he def also glared at me if you wanna know (not an art example but it doesn’t change much)

          and it impacted your life in any way whatsoever

          I didn’t said those interactions impact my life thoigh, AI impact (negatively) my life. I can’t use image search anymore without having almost only slop results, pintrest has too many AI slop stuff that i just can’t find inspiration, my youtube feed is full of AI slop, even if i continue to block it, Fiverr is full of AI slop too, AI datacenters polute a lot, SSDs, HDDs, RAM and GPU prices skyrocketed so now i can’t pursue my hobbies, Ads are made with AI too so now i must stare at shit when i either watch TV or i am using someone else device, a lot of software is made with LLMs so now i have to use laggy or full of vulnerabilities software and it’s hard to avoid, it made some people lose their job… Do i have to continue or will you shut up now?

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            I mean lol, I’m SPECIFICALLY saying that this demonization and hate monger of AI USERS is a problem - while neglecting what we actually should do and demand meaningful AI regulations and push back against the neoliberal plutocracy taking it over. I do agree with about half of your points there. And you answer with “oh there was this vibe coder and I went to him and told him what’s what!” lol. The exact opposite of what I was asking.

            The argument is that instead of meaningful activism that can change the world for the better, all you engage in is hate mongering as a form of emotional release. Spam spam spam. Seriously. Do you know how many millions of dollars you could collect from all those fuckais and hire some professional lobbyists that actually do something in Washington? Like what is your actual demand besides taking away stable diffusion models that can run on solar powered PCs?

            Also, it’s not like we didn’t have a lot of human and commercially fabricated slop before already, like most mangas or manhwas. “Art” for me always had a way higher threshold, and maybe we shouldn’t have politely indulged all this human slop posted on reddit for years.

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        23 hours ago

        if this was fuckAI 100%

        If it was true 100%

        This is just kinda… meh

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      I’m really happy you’re unaffected, and curious about your work and social groups that you’ve managed to avoid its negative impacts, but for a lot of us it’s a daily barrage.

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        Almost everyone in my family keeps sending me AI generated documentary shit all the time. Problem is bets I can tell only 50% of it factual. Every single video in my family, I’m tired of debunking boss. And despite proving more than a few dozen times, that it’s not 100% reliable data, they are content in accepting half truth and half lies for at least the half is true. And it’s getting in my nerves. So yes fuck Gen AI artists. They can rot in hell.

        I’m slightly less mad at pure art promoters at least they’re not misibforming. But I’m still mad because art is human expression to me. A human has to decide every single stroke of an image, some speak more than others, but everything is intentional. Mistakes and all.

        With Gen AI there is no active decision making in most of the image, prompt was active decision sure, but the details, how each curl of hair should be, or how two colors should blend, 99% of prompter artists are not making that minute decisions. And that to me is just expressionnless. So I might hate them less, but they too can rot in hell.

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          Yeah with the images now you can just ask a computer to make any image so I feel like the novelty’s gone, so why not just try to draw it yourself?

          Even an amateur sketch sparks more joy, more connection, and tells me more about your passion than the most detailed most smoothest most super duper HDR style generated image.

          In fact I would literally prefer a blank box with some plain alt text describing the image you would have generated. That way I can at least see what you the person were trying to communicate rather than what was statistically inserted based on association, temperature, and whatever advertising partners won the automated micro-bid for placement in the image.

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        2 days ago

        See my other comment. You’re just pushing hate against people instead of meaningful regulations.

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      Just because you had the chance to avoid it (or so you think at least) doesn’t mean it’s okay in any way, and society for for everyone is being durably impacted by all this fir the worst, demonstrably so. So yes, we’ll keep complaining and denouncing it, sorry for your terrible inconvenience

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        But you’re not. You don’t do that. You’re denouncing people, turning them into villains. You’re not suggesting any sensible regulation (e.g. https://regulations.ai/). You’re not attacking the root of the problem, neoliberal capitalism.

        All you’re doing is spraying shit into the ether.

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          actually we do both, and they are both necessary. Reforming or revolutionizing the system is the root of it all, and in the meanwhile, calling out and demonizing people consciously using the most wasteful and unethical tools available is also good and important. People that keep using these generative AI tools while aware of their impacts deserve being made fun of and cast out of a society which they clearly don’t care much about

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            A far more pragmatic and helpful approach would be to educate affected consumers on media literacy. The people sharing AI slop are the exact same ones who share fake news, fall for malware attachments, and fall for other scams even without AI. Tackling the root cause will handle the rest naturally. Hating on the tools or their creators is pure copium.