That’s patriarchy, not Islam. Inform yourself about christianity and you’ll find much the same. It’s just a different flavour of misogyny. In medieval times, arabic/islamic countries were the educated centers of culture and christian Europe was the barbaric part of the world. Now the scale looks tipped the other way. All the while, evangelical misogynists kill women by denying them life-saving treatments when they are suspected to be pregnant.
All religions are fucked up. If any of them was truly about belief, and not controlling people (and especially women’s bodies), there’d be zero need for an institutionalized belief system.
yeah, right now Christians, especially in the USA, opress women. row v wade was overturned as one of veeeeery many examples, they’re hell bend on stripping rights and bodily autonomy from women. for most Christian idioligist in politics women are reduced to breeding machines, totally dehumanizing them.
so, what’s the track record of Muslims in american politics? or are you just scared?
And about your message:
Should the USA trade bad for worse?
P.S.
One of you, poor bastards, went to all my recent comments in other posts and downvoted them.
One could only aspire to this level of pettiness 😀 @[email protected] , was that you?
no, wasn’t me, I have faaaaar better things to do.
also, what would even be worse then a religious extremist group controlling multiple states and influencing the president to opress non believers?
Muslims have the potential to do similar things, but Christians are right now doing it. which is worse do you think? maybe you are just scared of things you dont know
I don’t see Mamdani talking about Allahs will every week. You see, it is not about religion, it is about educated people with good will. Now stop with this whataboutism
you didn’t defend Christianity. but you’re still attacking a fundamental religious group which has nothing to do with the candidate. why would you do that, when it gives the impression of conflating Muslim believe and Islamism?
Again, this only becomes relevant to policy if El-Sayed has said he plans to vote according to this or that Islamic ruling. To my knowledge he’s said no such thing.
there’s nothing in Islamic scripture that says “thou shalt oppress women”. there may be cultural oppression but that goes for many societies irrespective of their religion.
It doesn’t though, some Muslims do. Just like some Christians do. You got mad when someone else used a No True Scotsman argument, but “Islam oppresses women” implicitly uses the exact same argument. “Islam oppresses women, therefore any “Muslim” that doesn’t, isn’t practicing real Islam.”
I think they got it from their stupid lizard brains just like all the Christian misogynists and secular misogynists and Jewish misogynists and Hindu misogynists and Buddhist misogynists, etc, etc. I think this all started a long time before we had the capacity for complex language or self-realization. Your line of thinking can only lead to more prejudice and hate in the world, you should abandon it.
So? He can’t fucking screw things up worse than you christians.
Islam has its flaws: it oppresses women, for example.
That’s patriarchy, not Islam. Inform yourself about christianity and you’ll find much the same. It’s just a different flavour of misogyny. In medieval times, arabic/islamic countries were the educated centers of culture and christian Europe was the barbaric part of the world. Now the scale looks tipped the other way. All the while, evangelical misogynists kill women by denying them life-saving treatments when they are suspected to be pregnant.
All religions are fucked up. If any of them was truly about belief, and not controlling people (and especially women’s bodies), there’d be zero need for an institutionalized belief system.
We’re talking about now.
And don’t use the “no true Scotsman” thing.
yeah, right now Christians, especially in the USA, opress women. row v wade was overturned as one of veeeeery many examples, they’re hell bend on stripping rights and bodily autonomy from women. for most Christian idioligist in politics women are reduced to breeding machines, totally dehumanizing them. so, what’s the track record of Muslims in american politics? or are you just scared?
ideologist*
And about your message:
Should the USA trade bad for worse?
P.S. One of you, poor bastards, went to all my recent comments in other posts and downvoted them.
One could only aspire to this level of pettiness 😀
@[email protected] , was that you?
no, wasn’t me, I have faaaaar better things to do. also, what would even be worse then a religious extremist group controlling multiple states and influencing the president to opress non believers? Muslims have the potential to do similar things, but Christians are right now doing it. which is worse do you think? maybe you are just scared of things you dont know
I think they fully revealed their potential in, for example, ISIS and Afghanistan.
those are islamists.
You’re obviously miserable from your self-loathing. Go get some help. Being a racist shithead won’t fix your life.
What are you talking about?
And how am I a racist? Do you even know the meaning of that word?
I don’t see Mamdani talking about Allahs will every week. You see, it is not about religion, it is about educated people with good will. Now stop with this whataboutism
How is it whataboutism?
right, Christianity totally doesnt have these problems :D they not only also opress women, they also diddle little kids.
Do you think I would defend Christianity? I’m not a fan of it by far.
In Islam the very prophet of it had a wife of 6 at marriage and 9 when the marriage was consummated.
you didn’t defend Christianity. but you’re still attacking a fundamental religious group which has nothing to do with the candidate. why would you do that, when it gives the impression of conflating Muslim believe and Islamism?
Because religion is a cancer.
Religious people tend to extend their restrictions to non-believers.
and your solution is to restrict peopled believes? same thing bud.
To restrict religious beliefs.
so to restrict because of your believe system.
I don’t see anything about Islam or women in El-Sayed’s platform though, so that’s irrelevant.
I was addressing the OC point.
Which is?
Look it up.
https://lemmy.world/comment/25433501
Again, this only becomes relevant to policy if El-Sayed has said he plans to vote according to this or that Islamic ruling. To my knowledge he’s said no such thing.
I don’t think we can separate a politician from their beliefs and preferences. Even if said politician isn’t mentioning it in the agenda.
I mean, you can think whatever you want, but in concrete terms what are you afraid that he’ll do?
I can’t think of a religion that doesn’t.
there’s nothing in Islamic scripture that says “thou shalt oppress women”. there may be cultural oppression but that goes for many societies irrespective of their religion.
“no true Scotsman…”
Religion is a cultural phenomenon.
Nice changing the goalposts.
You said Islam oppresses women.
If your point is the cultural oppression of women why didn’t you open with that rather than rely on lazy stereotypes about Muslims?
My point is the same: Islam oppresses women.
It doesn’t though, some Muslims do. Just like some Christians do. You got mad when someone else used a No True Scotsman argument, but “Islam oppresses women” implicitly uses the exact same argument. “Islam oppresses women, therefore any “Muslim” that doesn’t, isn’t practicing real Islam.”
I think they got the idea from islam.
What do you think?
You think they got sexism from a book??
I think they got it from their stupid lizard brains just like all the Christian misogynists and secular misogynists and Jewish misogynists and Hindu misogynists and Buddhist misogynists, etc, etc. I think this all started a long time before we had the capacity for complex language or self-realization. Your line of thinking can only lead to more prejudice and hate in the world, you should abandon it.
I live in a Muslim area and you dont know what you’re talking about.