Capitalism kills 200 million people every 10 years.
Yeah, but that’s ok because a few hundred people get to have more money than god.
Can fairytales have money?
Considering most of their wealth is speculative anyway, I’d say it’s fair to assume imagined entities can be included on the scoreboard.
Even if they can’t, wouldn’t that just mean that the category “more money than god” is just larger than you’d think at first?
Pretty sure a good chunk of Disney’s budget is allocated to fairytales
Erm, source?
Here’s a running tally
The data you’re citing would falsely indicate closer to 100mil every 10 years. Started a tally in 1990, its 2026 and it included millions of pre 90s deaths. Now whose inflating😉. The 420 million figure isn’t a measured death toll caused by capitalism. About 90% comes from deaths associated with hunger and inadequate healthcare, and the site makes the additional causal assumption that those deaths are attributable to capitalism. Show me the counterfactual proving those people would have survived under a non-capitalist system. Especially when considering the billions of dollars capitalist countries give in aid internationally and domestically. Also, global child mortality has fallen massively during the same period the site is counting these deaths as capitalism’s toll. The under-five mortality rate fell about 60% from 1990 to 2024, while the site attributes millions of ongoing deaths to capitalism.
Uh decreases in child mortality is a result from non-profit, state-driven public health initiatives and mass vaccination campaigns, publicly funded sanitation, and universal health protocols rather than market driven incentives. Credit belongs to public infrastructure, not private market distribution. You can thank socialism for this.
That’s a hell of a stretch comrade
Well The World Health Organization attributes reductions in child mortality primarily to public health interventions, such as expanded immunization programs, water treatment, and maternal health services, rather than market-driven healthcare.
Yes exactly, that’s what I’m saying.
low effort ragebait
Thank you
That’s not the only thing that’s a stretch, check this out
Show me the counterfactual proving those people would have survived under a non-capitalist system.
Are you going to apply the same standard to your original claim? How many of the alleged 200 million would have survived under a non-communist system?
Data’s messy… I get it. The actual mechanics of tallying all of this don’t matter quite as much as applying those rules consistently. It would be a bit unreasonable for you to ask for a counterfactual tally of deaths under capitalism if you’re unable to provide one for deaths under communism.
That’s exactly what I mean
About 90% comes from deaths associated with hunger and inadequate healthcare, and the site makes the additional causal assumption that those deaths are attributable to capitalism
Yeah? You want to try applying this standard to your own numbers first.
What numbers
Lazy troll
Idk seems like I’ve been doing a pretty good job with very little effort.
Also needs to be normalized by the number of people in each system.
You too
I didnt make the 200 mil meme but I did just finish this book that does a pretty good job laying it out. More anti concentration of total power in government than anything. Although the entire premise of the meme is kinda flawed since communism has never existed in the first place. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/998056.Death_by_Government
Commies gotta pump those numbers up if they want to come even close to capitalism’s death toll.
Fr fr on god
Two hundred million? They managed to double their kill count since 2000? Impressive, especially considering the lack of invading Nazis to mow down en masse for easy numbers.
It includes the children who are never going to be born because Elon was sad and couldn’t get boner with all his female employees
The 100 million figure includes abortions and Nazis killed during World War II, so even that’s already horrendously off (not to mention the outright faked numbers).
We’re on the same page. I even mentioned the Nazis in my comment!
I’m a big R. J. Rummel guy.
Person in Laos stubs toe
ANOTHER 100 BILLION TRILLION DEAD UNDER COMMUNISM!
No no, thats how this site works.
Sorry
child in the Ivory Coast dies from slavery farming chocolate for foreign consumption
ANOTHER 1 DEAD UNDER CAPITALISM!
See thats better! Instead of blaming the Ivory coast’s labor practices blanket blame global capitalism. You’re getting it!
As opposed to blanket blaming everything that happens under a socialist nation to reach the absurd metric of 200 million?
Chippy is an idiot. No need to waste time asking them for any substance
That seems pretty agressive bud. I’m over here having fun. I’ll have you know I’m actually pretty smart, … so… there!
Exactly
Hilarious that this source was just used to prove your bullshit and now you’re trying to flip it around in your favor. Fucking loser 😂
You think I was using that source in my favor? Or that it proves literally anything? That’s fantastic. Also, that last part was hurtful and I demand an apology. I’d also like you to work on understanding context. I believe you can be better if you work at it.
When I’m in a making up large numbers contest and my opponent is an anti-communist.
This is true, and I appreciate it.
TBH, some anti-communists also make up small numbers, to deny genocides.
oh snap it’s braininabox! We got a constellation of stars going on in this post.
This figure seems to come from the Black Book of Communism except multiplied by 2.
Yeah, the real ragebait here is that OP can’t event get the fake number right SMH 😔
Nah its from Death by Government: Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1900 by R.J. Rummel https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/998056.Death_by_Government
Interesting guy
Doesn’t have to have perfect opinions on everything to write a good book. Look at Marx and his views on jews/minorities or Schopenhauer and his views on women.
looks interesting
Covers lots of governments. It’s pretty dense but manageable.
Things people post when the U.S. empire crumbles
This is indeed, a shit post. They doubled the figure now!
Thank you, I try to get one going a couple times a month. “Communism bad” is the easiest by a mile.
Ain’t most of the communist death nazis ? Are you guys crying out for nazis ?
Communism has never existed. Pretty sure anyone who isn’t extremely far left is a nazi anyway. So we need to nail down terminology first.
wb chippy
Bout tree fidy
D:<
But the Soviets won the Space Race [if you don’t count landing on the Moon!]
The actual goal was to land on a comet (EU won).
The true goal is to escape the solar system with exploration ships, so we’re all losers.
Worth it then I guess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika
They killed a dog. Tortured to death.
“tortured” lol try harder
Wait till you hear about Fauci and the beagles.
I will down vote because you have said something that my Lemmy-Cult finds offensive and also say something about how you are capitalist pig monster.
Communism has never been done poorly in control of shit people, it only ever bring joy and happy to all.
Troo
My favorite is when they try to spin any communist leader as a good guy. Stalin in particular.
No such thing as a communist leader.
Edgy Marxists be like “Real communism has never been tried”
No? Marxists generally believe socialism can and does exist, and has existed thus far. The minority of Marxists believe it hasn’t.
Nah, just Trots
Tru
Edgy Marxists: *whataboutism intensifies*
but what about those people that go but what about
