I have an employee who leased a Kia EV. He was super happy, saying how it was a whole new world, NEVER going back.
Few weeks ago his wipers stopped working. No big deal, drop it off, get it fixed. Been there for almost a month. Now they’re talking about wiping each individual computer module and reloading in order to get it working again. Dealer has been working with corporate who engaged their engineering teams because nobody knows why the fuck the wipers won’t work.
I am all for EVs, would love one myself. However, it seems that the EV revolution arrived at the same time that the “overly complex for no benefit” revolution did. Also, add in creepy cyber-stalking via unwanted telemetry and I’m just not into it. I don’t want to be a luddite who refuses to get with the times, but aside from instant torque, there are not a lot of upsides.
Make something that works, make something reasonably priced and fucking TURN OFF THE CREEPY TELEMETRY and maybe I’ll reconsider.
Ha ha, we all know that’s not going to happen. Too many revenue streams from service/repair and the money they get from selling your behavioral patterns to every asshole with a few bucks.
That’s worrisome about the wipers, as is the telemetry. I think my dashboard is Android based, so I wonder if there’s any way to sideload APKs for AdAway or something similar. I managed to net a '24 Ioniq 5 Limited, and due to overflow of repaired/rejuvenated ICCU buybacks, got it for $25k. In my case, it was just the 12v battery that needed replacement.
Slightly different topic, but I can’t wait for vroom sound to fuck off. Every single night, I have jackasses making their big, strong, manly, vroom vroom sounds by my apartment, and doing wheelspins. Can’t wait for that to be taken away over the next 20-ish years by cars simply not making that noise, and being electronically incapable of making wheelspins.
I said nothing about punishing anyone. It’s just the natural way this is going to go. In 20 years, you won’t see a lot of ICE cars, therefore, you won’t hear a lot of annoying car noises.
I’d fucking better still be able to do a burnout you’re describing dystopia. Electric cars can easily produce burnout torque, give me the impression of shifting and I’m all in. The simplicity of electric driving bores me until I’m driving like an absolute bogan, downshifting and punching the throttle in my 5spd Forester is way more fun at 30mph than going 120 in a straight line.
Though it is oddly understated. You put pedal down, you feel it in your gut but it just does it without drama. No roar, no shifting, just immediate “here you go”.
I see that Hyundai made the equivalent of cards in the spokes, fake roar, fake shifting. As stupid as that is, it might be an option to feel a bit more of the “drama” of fast ICE.
I used to drive manuals till I got a caravan and started burning clutches. I moved to automatics for towing as it was just easier all round. The shift to an EV was another easy change.
The lack of drama while driving seems to be a big thing for enthusiasts however I hear the road noise and have decided that it is good not to be contributing unnecessarily to it.
If the enthusiasts get interior speakers to vroom at them, fine. The ones where they point the speakers to the world though…
But ultimately, after the entire history of cars being “vroom means fast”, I think it is a tough pill for them to swallow that it isn’t a necessary facet of going fast.
Demented boomers in EVs will kill so many people. Imagine a 2.5 metric ton machine flying trough a T intersection straight into a home because the braindead driver slammed the throttle instead of the brakes.
One pedal driving will become the norm. Like a go-kart you take the foot off the accelerator and the regen braking cuts in. Effectively, the brakes aren’t used a lot.
Another change is that they accelerate so quickly that people running the red light run a real risk of being tboned by an EV.
Yeah but once boomer ICE driving instincts wil kick in they think they have to slam the brakes and hit the accelerator when their demented brains fails them.
They obviously don’t have an EV! So much torque and so much fun!
Just got mine 2 weeks ago and it truly is a game changer. I don’t think I could see myself going back to an ICE vehicle ever again.
I hope your never in a ICE vehicle, prolly be the last we see of you
When I first typed this up, I knewsomeone would make that quip.
But yep, I sure hope not either 😳
I have an employee who leased a Kia EV. He was super happy, saying how it was a whole new world, NEVER going back.
Few weeks ago his wipers stopped working. No big deal, drop it off, get it fixed. Been there for almost a month. Now they’re talking about wiping each individual computer module and reloading in order to get it working again. Dealer has been working with corporate who engaged their engineering teams because nobody knows why the fuck the wipers won’t work.
I am all for EVs, would love one myself. However, it seems that the EV revolution arrived at the same time that the “overly complex for no benefit” revolution did. Also, add in creepy cyber-stalking via unwanted telemetry and I’m just not into it. I don’t want to be a luddite who refuses to get with the times, but aside from instant torque, there are not a lot of upsides.
Make something that works, make something reasonably priced and fucking TURN OFF THE CREEPY TELEMETRY and maybe I’ll reconsider.
Ha ha, we all know that’s not going to happen. Too many revenue streams from service/repair and the money they get from selling your behavioral patterns to every asshole with a few bucks.
Unfortunately the telemetry is not an EV only problem. That’s all cars now, and until we make it illegal.
Expect the Slate pickup, they claim.
That’s worrisome about the wipers, as is the telemetry. I think my dashboard is Android based, so I wonder if there’s any way to sideload APKs for AdAway or something similar. I managed to net a '24 Ioniq 5 Limited, and due to overflow of repaired/rejuvenated ICCU buybacks, got it for $25k. In my case, it was just the 12v battery that needed replacement.
And the ride is just so god damned smooth.
But no vroom sound and clutch, _,
Slightly different topic, but I can’t wait for vroom sound to fuck off. Every single night, I have jackasses making their big, strong, manly, vroom vroom sounds by my apartment, and doing wheelspins. Can’t wait for that to be taken away over the next 20-ish years by cars simply not making that noise, and being electronically incapable of making wheelspins.
Yea let’s punish everybody because you have shitty neighbours, instead of punishing the shitty neighbours…
we used this logic on smoking and it’s working pretty damn well so far.
I said nothing about punishing anyone. It’s just the natural way this is going to go. In 20 years, you won’t see a lot of ICE cars, therefore, you won’t hear a lot of annoying car noises.
I’d fucking better still be able to do a burnout you’re describing dystopia. Electric cars can easily produce burnout torque, give me the impression of shifting and I’m all in. The simplicity of electric driving bores me until I’m driving like an absolute bogan, downshifting and punching the throttle in my 5spd Forester is way more fun at 30mph than going 120 in a straight line.
They won’t get a word you said. Non car people don’t have a clue what we even mean.
How is not being able to do loud annoying wastefull shit a punishment
I still want to get a speaker on the outside that has the sound of a toddler making revving noises whenever I peel out
Just roll down your windows and become the toddler of which you dream
I need more volume
Yes, in every objective way better.
Though it is oddly understated. You put pedal down, you feel it in your gut but it just does it without drama. No roar, no shifting, just immediate “here you go”.
I see that Hyundai made the equivalent of cards in the spokes, fake roar, fake shifting. As stupid as that is, it might be an option to feel a bit more of the “drama” of fast ICE.
I used to drive manuals till I got a caravan and started burning clutches. I moved to automatics for towing as it was just easier all round. The shift to an EV was another easy change.
The lack of drama while driving seems to be a big thing for enthusiasts however I hear the road noise and have decided that it is good not to be contributing unnecessarily to it.
If the enthusiasts get interior speakers to vroom at them, fine. The ones where they point the speakers to the world though…
But ultimately, after the entire history of cars being “vroom means fast”, I think it is a tough pill for them to swallow that it isn’t a necessary facet of going fast.
Demented boomers in EVs will kill so many people. Imagine a 2.5 metric ton machine flying trough a T intersection straight into a home because the braindead driver slammed the throttle instead of the brakes.
One pedal driving will become the norm. Like a go-kart you take the foot off the accelerator and the regen braking cuts in. Effectively, the brakes aren’t used a lot.
Another change is that they accelerate so quickly that people running the red light run a real risk of being tboned by an EV.
Yeah but once boomer ICE driving instincts wil kick in they think they have to slam the brakes and hit the accelerator when their demented brains fails them.
I suppose you may get that far one. Plenty of people drive Dodge Rams and the like who are incompetent so a few oldies in EVs shouldn’t be a problem.