Yeah I did get a little Lost :P

But for reals, yeah I did. I was taking in the entire picture, but still way more than I’m hoping to utilize. One tiny box for now, but maybe down the line I’ll expand to a rack. Its only me, as my housemates use the Jellyfin setup a bit through our TVs, but the HA stuff, and even the PiHole are more or less all mine.

I do have a few old desktops I could work with, but my goal here is to find the golden ratio or whatever of hosting a bunch of small things all in one unit without going overboard, and ultimately shoving it all into the networking cabinet I posted in another comment. Low power, low footprint, etc. But who know? Maybe one day I’ll jump to something like your setup. Thanks for the input!

Oh don’t get me wrong, I get burnout myself if I’m hovering on a hobby for too long, but tinkering is in my blood. I’m sure I’ll have moments where I’m just thinking, “Fuck it, Imma play some gaems instead.”, but that itch is bound to come back.

I am curious what VPN you use tho. Been shopping around, and the unfortunate news that the big services are owned by a particular company kinda stalled my research.

As tempting as that is, I’m not expecting to build up something that hefty. Love the wireminding and all, but I’m hoping to keep this as something I can mount nicely in my teeny tiny network cabinet. The horsepower I’m looking for, alongside the low thermal and power loads, are my goal. Maybe I’ll expand beyond eventually, but who knows?

Thank you for the suggestion though! Also love the R&C refs :) Still need to finish Rift Apart.

Yeah, in all reality, I’m not too hung up about AMD/Intel, I was goofing in an earlier reply, and that was geared more towards the Nvidia/AMD perpetual battle. And that doesn’t matter much here as I’m not doing anything GPU intensive outside some possible transcoding, but even that may be unnecessary with my needs.

Thx for the video as well!

Looks like that’s a bit under-powered compared to the N100, but if it more than suits your needs, great! Again, I’m just happy with all the outpouring of info and ideas. Knowing that most NUCs are quite a bit more powerful than Pis is the best new in itself.

Yeah, definitely beyond my needs. I actually have a hand-me-down server a friend gifted me, and that is well beyond what I need, plus power costs in the $50+/mo realm. Certainly not a bad price for that type of performance. Sure, it would be cool to have a centralized system that can do everything, but outside of my initial thoughts of using this setup for 4-5 low-power things, the cost is too great to consider. Thanks for your input nonetheless!

Wow, yeah this looks great. 16GB/512GB for under $200 makes this a frontrunner for now. Outside of Jellyfin, what else do you run, and how do you have it containerized? I’m inching closer to Proxmox vs Docker due to issues brought up in other comments.

Yeah, most units I’m looking at now are of the 16GB/512GB flavor, as while that should be plenty of overhead for the time being, I’m wondering if 32GB is the better way to go to give even more buffer and cache space traded off with a smidge more upfront cost. I hope to eventually repurpose the Pis with something else, or donate them to my school’s tech program (yay DoE crumbling :( ), as I currently have one of my RPi4s running Steam Link for my housemate. Freeing up the other Pi4 and the Pi3B+ for other things would be great.

I think this is kinda where I’m heading with how the comments are helping guide me. I started this journey nearly 10 years ago with my first house and it was a measly HP SFF junker I had pulled from… somewhere (I honestly don’t recall how it materialized :P ), and had TrueNAS on it with a dinky 2x1TB non-RAID setup. I’d still like to keep my current 2x8TB Synology RAID1 as a separate entity until I deem the need for more local storage, so if I can fit all the brains into one unit for everything I’m hoping to use, so the Beelink/Minisforum/GMKTek route is my current path. Might I ask which model NUC you have?

The Docker Desktop comment was from literally one post stating it was junk vs the standard Docker Engine (GUI vs not), so I thought it was deeper than that. The only thing keeping me away from Docker now though is the inability to use deeper customization on HA. A comment above noted HACS can’t be used in the Docker container, which I use currently to control my Govee lighting.

Aww tho, having nothing to tinker with does fill the soul with sadness. As a fellow tinkerer I feel this, however I just fill my time then with extensive modding of games, or y’know, actually playing them :P

Holy moly. Yeah that’s an exhaustive list :P

I don’t see myself going that far, but again you didn’t either. The Jellyfin/PiHole/HA/OctoPrint is kinda my current scope, but who knows what other options I’ll look into. Having the overhead would always be nice. Although Immich is tempting now as ditching as much Google stuff is also on the horizon (I can’t even think of getting rid of Gmail just yet, but it is inevitable).

Curious, what’s your typical idle/load power draw? I think I’m comfy with up to 40-50w on load (my Ryzen 7700 is 65w TDP), although the less impact on ever increasing bills would be nice.

Right on the money. I know that this’ll be a hobby I can grow for a while, just gotta find that balance of "is this good enough, or just one more device/peripheral/etc? Right now, I just wanna be able to shove it into my tiny network cabinet (the ones that are included with many new houses). This is what I’m working with currently:

Certainly far from winning any pageants lol. That said, The n100 units, or comparable, are the perfect size to shove into this (sans the two Pis already in there). And yeah, warranty/support-wise, I’m cool with this being an “I’m on my own”, as I don’t even know how far I’ll take this. The e-waste bit, well… I don’t really throw anything out. Not a hoarder outside of the digital sense, and repurposing tech is something I’m able to do working for a school district with young tinkerer minds, so to eventually hand this stuff down to them even if just for a stockpile of tech to mess with, is my end goal.

Yeah the HA Docker ish is the one thing I got concerned about, as I already needed to install HACS to integrate my Govee lights into it. For now, I’m also looking at the HA Voice Preview for voice integration, as I’m sick of having my shitty Google Homes all around unable to handle simple requests (like failing to turn on/off lights).

As much as I want to nuke Windows on my main rig, I try to play a lot of VR (especially heavily modded SkyrimVR), and after getting those games tweaked just right, it’d be quite the hit to me if I had to redo all of that again.

Genuinely interested in ProxMox tho, as if I can run all systems in their individual containers (a la Docker w/o the HACS issue) on one main device with a low power overhead, I’m all ears.

The NUC def seems like the best option, although from an earlier replay of mine, I’m still looking into seeing how far I can take the Pi4. MicroSD cards are still far less pricey than a new system after all.

Oh that sounds epic actually. Just like Wizard said tho, I too am curious on your setup. What VM solution? I’ve been looking lightly into ProxMox, but I know nothing much more than the name so far lol.

Maybe I will try to redo the Pi4. Just wanna see if I can make a full backup of Jellyfin’s config beforehand. Or, y’know, just buy a few extra microSD cards.

But yes, the excuse is valid. I feel like eventually I’ll hit a wall with the Pi4, but I also dunno how much more I’m trying to expand anyway. Basically trying to get to that low power, self-sufficient plateau without going too overboard.

Oh wow. Yeah, I have an old server hand-me-down from a friend, and his first red flag with it was it was gonna pull down $50 more power monthly 0_o. I may look into this. I have a few old cases lying about, but I was looking from in the super small form factor as I could nestle it in my network cabinet.

Would the 5000 series of AMD’s Ryzen 5/7 be a good bet to baseline with? Couple gens old now, so I’m thinking kinda cheap. Something like this from Beelink perhaps?

So I was spitballing there with the Linux stuff. Really I just wanna get something I can VNC into and be headless with a webUI. Something in the PopOS / Mint area if possible, but any other more specialized options could be nice. What would be a “next step up” from the n100 if you know? I’m seeing stuff in the 12th Gen arena as just that.

I’m finding some $200-ish options on ebay, but not sure offhand how they compare to the MS-01, as that’s definitely more than I’d like to spend. I am inching closer to $300, but that’ll just continue to fuel my indecisiveness :P