I feel like the corvette is the worst of every world. Pricy/frequent repairs, not particularly quick to accelerate, weird stigma. Compared to many cheaper electric cars with surprising oomf, it feels silly to go with gas for fun. If you have the ability to charge an electric car, anyway
Everything I’ve heard about the ZR1 is generally positive. I was under the impression that it was very competitive with other “super cars” often for substantially less money.
Agreed. Not sure what this guy is talking about. Are they perfect? No. But for an ICE car, it’s really fast. Electric have the benefit of all the torque available without the need to rev.
That’s my point. Electric does the same for a lower price with better optics and more storage space and range. If you want to get slammed into your seat, a 50k usd electric is going to do just that, and it will last longer, and it won’t yield any “corvette guy” vibes, and it probably won’t break down anywhere near as frequently. (Obviously model specific, and it goes without saying but fuck Tesla)
Eeeeeh, I’m scared to ride one. Their doors cutting out during an accident is absolutely horrifying. Neat car to play with on a track with a fire crew handy, though. Just not one I’d choose to use more often than that.
You understood none of what I wrote if you think this expresses that anyone should ever drive a Tesla for any reason. I call a car a death trap requiring a standing fire crew and you interpret that as a track toy? There is phenomenal bravery in your incredibly obvious misinterpretation.
And of course a corvette would beat comparably priced evs on the track. Most can’t corner. Do you want a cookie for taking high school physics and economics 101?
3 second 0-60 on the base model and 2.5 seconds with the sports package. Thats right in there with the sportier electrics, but the sportier electrics (broad, I realize) go from 50-120k usd and the zr1 from 70-120k usd. Thats not bad, but corvettes are notorious for maintenance needs and issues
I’ll need you to boot up your favorite racing game and try to understand how incomparable a 2 ton EV that zips straight is to a sports car. Driving dynamics of EVs suck and will continue to suck until they can get battery weight down.
I mean, I’m cornering fine in the city and easily placing myself in any location within eyeline when I choose to be there. On a track, it’d have me beat. Running from the police as well. But on tax payer roads, dividends are small. The second set of brakes make it feel much more manageable, as well.
What car a “car person” buys is not because of a numbers games, or its features, or its practicality, it is just because certain cars give a sort of “emotion” that connects with them. As someone who has driven loud but genuinely slow cars like Toyota Chasers, RB20 swapped Silvias, forged billet built 4g63 evo’s, but then something like an Audi E-tron GT, the etron of course is faster, more comfort, more festures, but they feel “sanitized” where as the others you have to conform to the car. EV’s are amazing cars, but give you no connection to the car or the road, there is no personality. If you’re not into cars, it sounds dumb, but as much as corvette owners, or dodge demon buyers will tell you the 0-60 times, the 1/4 miles trap speeds, the power of the car, the real reason is it conveys an emotion that connects with them that a Tesla doesn’t, a Porsche Taycan doesn’t, a ioniq 5 N doesn’t, etc, they’re great amazing cars, but they don’t let you turn your brain off the world and needing you to focus on driving, like listening to your favorite song does, some songs are just noise, but some let you forget about the world and just focus on the moment
I vaguely understand what you mean, but it’s impossible for me to fully grasp, as someone who sees cars as a means of conveyance with utility in speed solely owing to the ability to avoid frustration on the road. Frankly, the idea feels so alien to me that I am absent of questions. Which is rare for me.
And that’s okay! Cars as an interest isn’t for everyone, to me it is my passion, and my means to a living, but for most they are merely a tool and a burden, nothing more, but for some it goes beyond that. It is one of the very few hobbies/passion that is shared by the majority of those who don’t care for it. Imagine if suddenly everyone in the world had to spend and hour of their day listening to heavy metal music, no negotiation, just has to as a means to living, for the majority, they would hate that hour of the day, but for those who are into it, they’d love it, well that is the automotive hobby, majority have to drive to live, so not everyone has to be interested in it, its just a tool, but for some, it is an expression of themselves, a connection to a past, something to improve themselves upon, or just a way to disconnect, cars can tell a story to some, but to others they’re as colourful as a hospital hallway, and both are okay.
I really enjoyed your description of car people and the metal comparison. If by any chance your means of living is lyft or uber, I hope you are my driver one day soon.
If you can’t even comprehend the idea of driving for fun, what makes you think you’re qualified to comment on the topic? Corvettes are designed to do things you don’t care about doing. Is it really any wonder you don’t “get” them?
0-60 in 2.3 seconds is ridiculously jumpy, Most people can’t control a car accelerating that fast. 0-60 in <=5 seconds is considered sports car territory
The Corvette? Didn’t it have like horse chariot suspension 3 generations ago? Scary indeed when a car is fast but not built to take corners at any speed.
You could not be more misinformed here. I say this as someone who drives an electric. The modern corvettes are insane value for a sports car, extremely moddablr and reliable, as quick or quicker than an ev while annihilating most evs on top speed.
You sir, are the worst kind of incorrect. You are confidently incorrect.
I don’t know enough about cars to join this conversation but I feel like the people arguing with someone calling themselves Gullible are probably wearing uranium horseshoes.
This is nonsense. You know nothing about corvettes or sports cars. The reason it’s popular is that it’s more engaging and more fun then just about everything at its price point while being reliable even after modding. Nobody in the space gives a fuck that they are fast in a straight line or you can spend a million dollars for a hypercar that that actually can’t make out through a full length event.
The ignorance in your comment is one of the best cases I’ve seen in a while of confidently incorrect 🤦♂️.
I know older Corvettes are a pretty good starting point for getting into stock car drag racing
Source: I drag raced my family’s 15-seat Chevrolet Express, and synced the video to the audio of a Corvette that got exactly half my quarter-mile time XD
My silly FR-S is pretty fun, cheap-ish on gas, and was only like $11k with 56k miles. When I was looking there weren’t many fun electrics in my price range.
The BRZ was what I was originally wanting, but they all seem too expensive in my area. My wife has been driving a Scion xD for around 14 years and as her household mechanic it’s been a dream so I figured why not for the BRZ’s sister car.
Looking in my area FR-S’ seem about the same price, gr86’s seemed a bit more pricey. I considered them all equal when i was looking (at the time i was looking at wrx’s or miata’s also). Really enjoy driving this this car so far only downside is more expensive gas, and the paint which seems to chip super easy.
I loved my FR-S (after a chip tune to smooth out the torque dip). I put a Borla cat-back on it and it sounded amazing. I loved how you could rev third all the way out and not be going ridiculously fast. Parking lot drifting was so easy with the LSD too. Oh, and I loved how it used the standard Toyota cruise control stalk; that one is one of my favorites. Great car.
I don’t really need something insanely fast, just something fun to drive lol! Sadly no drifting for me yet, I may have gotten too old for that when I wasn’t looking. I’m just glad for a no frills manual transmission in today’s world.
Mine came with an invidia exhaust and a pretty nice ingen intake… Makes it a bit louder than I like, but it sounds better than a few I’ve seen (deeper, less like a pissed off weedwacker).
56k miles on a 10 year old car?? Damn, I need your search skills! But yes, the secondhand market is rough for electrics. It’s like they’re made of gold, the way the price refuses to dip.
Actually it was 13 years old, it was one of the 2013’s that somebody absolutely loved. They installed the starlight headliner mod, ingen intake, and invidia exhaust. It’s got the bespoke radio (sadly the 2013 bespoke that didn’t have native apps, it was powered by zypher), and the optional bazooka sub in the trunk; when I bought it there was zero bass because someone tried to wire in a kicker and ended up starving the signal so neither sub was working.
The only gripe I really have with it is the black velvet like stuff they covered the interior with and the insanely worn gear shifter.
Are the seats black velvet? That sounds rough in the summer. Hot and slipping across a smooth, sweat soaked surface is, perhaps, the least comfortable way to drive. In my opinion, anyway.
That is an incredibly sweet deal, though. It sounds like you got someone’s leisure car. I can’t think of another reason for all of the mods and mileage being as low as it was. It must have been tough for them to give up.
No the seats are normal, I guess they didn’t like the cheap plastic feel for the trim (like silver-grey accents around the radio/vents/door cards) so they glued on some sort of fabric. It really doesn’t look too bad, but I’ll probably bring that part back to stock, or swap it for nicer pieces meant for the BRZ.
I wish you luck, if you try another veneer. My friend ended up having his new pleather bubble up on him twice before swapping to cloth, which also bubbled up once before being fixed
Nah, definitely Ferrari. Tires are like $50K. An oil change is like $2-3K. Just buying one is a huge hassle. You can’t just walk into a dealership and buy one, you have to agree to buy a few used ones first, then they’ll allow you on the waiting list for a new one.
it feels silly to go with gas for fun
Fun is about more than just speed. Top speed, zero to sixty, Nurgurgring lap times, those are all just numbers on paper. Having fun is about more than that. Fun is a sum total of the sensations a car can provide you. If you’ve never rowed through the gears of a roaring V8, listening to the RPMs climb and crescendo into the smooth thunk of the shifter, you should really try it some time. It’s a uniquely satisfying sensory combination that electric vehicles just can’t replicate. A Model S can’t have supercharger whine, a blowoff valve, or even induction noise. Those things might not be sensible, or even practical, but they are sure as hell fun.
Pretty sure you can just walk into a dealer and order a new one. It’ll just be a basic Ferrari. The limited production run models are the ones reserved for repeat customers.
It’s also to make their customers feel special
The entire ownership experience is ass though. New, you’re stuck going to the dealer for repairs. Old, good luck finding parts
I honestly prefer the silent acceleration of an EV, all the sounds are annoying. I have fun accelerating from every traffic light to 50 km/h in a blink of an eye. I can have fun on my commute, save money and as a side effect “save the planet”. Without annoying everyone around me.
If they manage to fit the engine in such a flat vehicle, I’d be impressed. The only company going as low as a corvette is aspark, and I don’t even know when or if they’re actually going to deliver those things. And they cost 3kk usd each.
I don’t find any races entertaining to watch. Electric gets me from point a to point b extreme rapidly, and that’s where I find my fun. In instantly flying past the doofus ahead who’s driving 10 under the limit and arriving at my destination without aggravation. Doubling my speed to catch the next green cycle. Hauling what I need without worrying about space. Never hearing “oh, you’re a ___ guy.” It’s just a fast car with trunk space to me. Romanticization of cars is utterly absent in me.
Please do. Sitting behind slow moving, hesitant, unpredictable drivers is agony. I imagine you choose not to use your blinker, seize the gap, or follow the flow of traffic like everyone else in this godforsaken city.
If I see you crawling down the freeway on-ramp at half the speed of the drivers you’re attempting to merge between, I will transfer to you the aneurysm you planted within me by sheer force of will as I pass by you.
I apologize if this comes off as rude, but you’re currently incapable of extrapolating enough information to have a conversation about how to drive. I assuredly hold fewer or equal points on my decades old license, likely maintain distance better than you do, and drive more defensively than you do.
Cease attempting to look out for people while looking through the lens of someone speaking out of frustration about street racers and geriatrics. You do not even understand enough to ask questions.
It does not beat me. We are equal in points. However, I understand that I cannot know how someone drives based solely on an internet rant, you absolute goober.
I feel like the corvette is the worst of every world. Pricy/frequent repairs, not particularly quick to accelerate, weird stigma. Compared to many cheaper electric cars with surprising oomf, it feels silly to go with gas for fun. If you have the ability to charge an electric car, anyway
Everything I’ve heard about the ZR1 is generally positive. I was under the impression that it was very competitive with other “super cars” often for substantially less money.
Agreed. Not sure what this guy is talking about. Are they perfect? No. But for an ICE car, it’s really fast. Electric have the benefit of all the torque available without the need to rev.
That’s my point. Electric does the same for a lower price with better optics and more storage space and range. If you want to get slammed into your seat, a 50k usd electric is going to do just that, and it will last longer, and it won’t yield any “corvette guy” vibes, and it probably won’t break down anywhere near as frequently. (Obviously model specific, and it goes without saying but fuck Tesla)
I’d love a used model s p100d, but then I’d be in a Tesla.
Eeeeeh, I’m scared to ride one. Their doors cutting out during an accident is absolutely horrifying. Neat car to play with on a track with a fire crew handy, though. Just not one I’d choose to use more often than that.
Their hidden rear door release design should literally be an imprisonable crime
If this is what gets musk thrown into prison, I’d be so giddy
Shit talking the corvette based on straight line speed then talking about a track toy… are you delusional or what?
The corvette is an excellent track car for the price and would be far more enjoyable than an EV for that purpose.
You understood none of what I wrote if you think this expresses that anyone should ever drive a Tesla for any reason. I call a car a death trap requiring a standing fire crew and you interpret that as a track toy? There is phenomenal bravery in your incredibly obvious misinterpretation.
And of course a corvette would beat comparably priced evs on the track. Most can’t corner. Do you want a cookie for taking high school physics and economics 101?
…
Definition of a track toy.
Don’t worry you’ve talked about how you’re not a car guy so I get how you’d be ignorant of these things.
The door thing is not a thing on the older Teslas.
Also they tend to be the more reliable sports car too certainly cheaper to maintain than anything Italian or German.
They are on crack, ignorant, and trying to pull an ’ ACHKTUALLY the Tesla/byd is faster’ argument.
I’ve only mentioned teslas to disparage them and I don’t actually know what a byd is. Feel free to ctrl f.
Damn they are ignorant on electric cars too
Apologies, I don’t track Chinese car brands. I can tell that knowing the names of Chinese car brands is very important to you, but it is not to me.
China numba one
3 second 0-60 on the base model and 2.5 seconds with the sports package. Thats right in there with the sportier electrics, but the sportier electrics (broad, I realize) go from 50-120k usd and the zr1 from 70-120k usd. Thats not bad, but corvettes are notorious for maintenance needs and issues
I’ll need you to boot up your favorite racing game and try to understand how incomparable a 2 ton EV that zips straight is to a sports car. Driving dynamics of EVs suck and will continue to suck until they can get battery weight down.
I mean, I’m cornering fine in the city and easily placing myself in any location within eyeline when I choose to be there. On a track, it’d have me beat. Running from the police as well. But on tax payer roads, dividends are small. The second set of brakes make it feel much more manageable, as well.
What car a “car person” buys is not because of a numbers games, or its features, or its practicality, it is just because certain cars give a sort of “emotion” that connects with them. As someone who has driven loud but genuinely slow cars like Toyota Chasers, RB20 swapped Silvias, forged billet built 4g63 evo’s, but then something like an Audi E-tron GT, the etron of course is faster, more comfort, more festures, but they feel “sanitized” where as the others you have to conform to the car. EV’s are amazing cars, but give you no connection to the car or the road, there is no personality. If you’re not into cars, it sounds dumb, but as much as corvette owners, or dodge demon buyers will tell you the 0-60 times, the 1/4 miles trap speeds, the power of the car, the real reason is it conveys an emotion that connects with them that a Tesla doesn’t, a Porsche Taycan doesn’t, a ioniq 5 N doesn’t, etc, they’re great amazing cars, but they don’t let you turn your brain off the world and needing you to focus on driving, like listening to your favorite song does, some songs are just noise, but some let you forget about the world and just focus on the moment
I vaguely understand what you mean, but it’s impossible for me to fully grasp, as someone who sees cars as a means of conveyance with utility in speed solely owing to the ability to avoid frustration on the road. Frankly, the idea feels so alien to me that I am absent of questions. Which is rare for me.
And that’s okay! Cars as an interest isn’t for everyone, to me it is my passion, and my means to a living, but for most they are merely a tool and a burden, nothing more, but for some it goes beyond that. It is one of the very few hobbies/passion that is shared by the majority of those who don’t care for it. Imagine if suddenly everyone in the world had to spend and hour of their day listening to heavy metal music, no negotiation, just has to as a means to living, for the majority, they would hate that hour of the day, but for those who are into it, they’d love it, well that is the automotive hobby, majority have to drive to live, so not everyone has to be interested in it, its just a tool, but for some, it is an expression of themselves, a connection to a past, something to improve themselves upon, or just a way to disconnect, cars can tell a story to some, but to others they’re as colourful as a hospital hallway, and both are okay.
I really enjoyed your description of car people and the metal comparison. If by any chance your means of living is lyft or uber, I hope you are my driver one day soon.
If you can’t even comprehend the idea of driving for fun, what makes you think you’re qualified to comment on the topic? Corvettes are designed to do things you don’t care about doing. Is it really any wonder you don’t “get” them?
Uuu… Gatekeeping, now that’s something new under the sun.
The zr1 is 0-60 in 2.3 seconds with a top speed of 233 miles per hour.
The C8 is 0-60 in 2.8 seconds, with a top speed of 194. the electric is 0-60 in 2.5
These aren’t slow, not even close to being slow.
The corvette is literally one of best price per performance cars in 2026
https://www.newsbreak.com/daxstreet-308709646/4771864623017-8-cars-with-highest-top-speeds-for-their-price
I never got the “top speed” thing. The fastest I’ve ever gone in a car was 110 mph, and that felt like far too much on a freeway.
But I never said slow, it’s just not particularly jumpy when compared with electrics. I should have clarified acceleration, you’re right.
0-60 in 2.3 seconds is ridiculously jumpy, Most people can’t control a car accelerating that fast. 0-60 in <=5 seconds is considered sports car territory
https://www.0-60times.com/fastest.asp
It scared JEREMY CLARKSON like 3 generations ago
The Corvette? Didn’t it have like horse chariot suspension 3 generations ago? Scary indeed when a car is fast but not built to take corners at any speed.
It’s because the attention is more important than the oomf for these kinds of people.
If they could easily modify an electric car to make a ton of noise when revving, they’d probably switch.
You could not be more misinformed here. I say this as someone who drives an electric. The modern corvettes are insane value for a sports car, extremely moddablr and reliable, as quick or quicker than an ev while annihilating most evs on top speed.
You sir, are the worst kind of incorrect. You are confidently incorrect.
Their reliability is comparable to a new Tesla, and their parts are pricy as hell. Who’s telling you these things?
I don’t know enough about cars to join this conversation but I feel like the people arguing with someone calling themselves Gullible are probably wearing uranium horseshoes.
Shhhhhh, you’ll ruin the bits and confuse the ones where it’s not a bit
This is nonsense. You know nothing about corvettes or sports cars. The reason it’s popular is that it’s more engaging and more fun then just about everything at its price point while being reliable even after modding. Nobody in the space gives a fuck that they are fast in a straight line or you can spend a million dollars for a hypercar that that actually can’t make out through a full length event.
The ignorance in your comment is one of the best cases I’ve seen in a while of confidently incorrect 🤦♂️.
You are a nerd who has missed the point entirely.
This reads almost like an ad for a matchbox car. I’m a nerd calling your hobby silly, not misinformed
No I read your responses. Your intentionally being dense. Fuck off.
I see your point… But in no world is an EV a replacement of a Corvette or similar car…
I know older Corvettes are a pretty good starting point for getting into stock car drag racing
Source: I drag raced my family’s 15-seat Chevrolet Express, and synced the video to the audio of a Corvette that got exactly half my quarter-mile time XD
I think I know what went wrong with the van. You probably forgot to paint flames on it.
Shoulda painted it red, red is faster 👍
The Chevy Express is such a good van dude. What year?
Dream van
C8 also looks like derivative trash
C5/C6 forever
My silly FR-S is pretty fun, cheap-ish on gas, and was only like $11k with 56k miles. When I was looking there weren’t many fun electrics in my price range.
15k cad, and 26k km for my very serious brz (also 13 years old). I also had the same lack of evs in my price range (not even including fun ones).
The BRZ was what I was originally wanting, but they all seem too expensive in my area. My wife has been driving a Scion xD for around 14 years and as her household mechanic it’s been a dream so I figured why not for the BRZ’s sister car.
Looking in my area FR-S’ seem about the same price, gr86’s seemed a bit more pricey. I considered them all equal when i was looking (at the time i was looking at wrx’s or miata’s also). Really enjoy driving this this car so far only downside is more expensive gas, and the paint which seems to chip super easy.
I loved my FR-S (after a chip tune to smooth out the torque dip). I put a Borla cat-back on it and it sounded amazing. I loved how you could rev third all the way out and not be going ridiculously fast. Parking lot drifting was so easy with the LSD too. Oh, and I loved how it used the standard Toyota cruise control stalk; that one is one of my favorites. Great car.
I don’t really need something insanely fast, just something fun to drive lol! Sadly no drifting for me yet, I may have gotten too old for that when I wasn’t looking. I’m just glad for a no frills manual transmission in today’s world.
Mine came with an invidia exhaust and a pretty nice ingen intake… Makes it a bit louder than I like, but it sounds better than a few I’ve seen (deeper, less like a pissed off weedwacker).
56k miles on a 10 year old car?? Damn, I need your search skills! But yes, the secondhand market is rough for electrics. It’s like they’re made of gold, the way the price refuses to dip.
?? EVs depreciate like a rock
All of my rocks retain value pretty well?
Good talk
Actually it was 13 years old, it was one of the 2013’s that somebody absolutely loved. They installed the starlight headliner mod, ingen intake, and invidia exhaust. It’s got the bespoke radio (sadly the 2013 bespoke that didn’t have native apps, it was powered by zypher), and the optional bazooka sub in the trunk; when I bought it there was zero bass because someone tried to wire in a kicker and ended up starving the signal so neither sub was working.
The only gripe I really have with it is the black velvet like stuff they covered the interior with and the insanely worn gear shifter.
Are the seats black velvet? That sounds rough in the summer. Hot and slipping across a smooth, sweat soaked surface is, perhaps, the least comfortable way to drive. In my opinion, anyway.
That is an incredibly sweet deal, though. It sounds like you got someone’s leisure car. I can’t think of another reason for all of the mods and mileage being as low as it was. It must have been tough for them to give up.
No the seats are normal, I guess they didn’t like the cheap plastic feel for the trim (like silver-grey accents around the radio/vents/door cards) so they glued on some sort of fabric. It really doesn’t look too bad, but I’ll probably bring that part back to stock, or swap it for nicer pieces meant for the BRZ.
I wish you luck, if you try another veneer. My friend ended up having his new pleather bubble up on him twice before swapping to cloth, which also bubbled up once before being fixed
Nah, definitely Ferrari. Tires are like $50K. An oil change is like $2-3K. Just buying one is a huge hassle. You can’t just walk into a dealership and buy one, you have to agree to buy a few used ones first, then they’ll allow you on the waiting list for a new one.
Fun is about more than just speed. Top speed, zero to sixty, Nurgurgring lap times, those are all just numbers on paper. Having fun is about more than that. Fun is a sum total of the sensations a car can provide you. If you’ve never rowed through the gears of a roaring V8, listening to the RPMs climb and crescendo into the smooth thunk of the shifter, you should really try it some time. It’s a uniquely satisfying sensory combination that electric vehicles just can’t replicate. A Model S can’t have supercharger whine, a blowoff valve, or even induction noise. Those things might not be sensible, or even practical, but they are sure as hell fun.
Pretty sure you can just walk into a dealer and order a new one. It’ll just be a basic Ferrari. The limited production run models are the ones reserved for repeat customers.
It’s also to make their customers feel special
The entire ownership experience is ass though. New, you’re stuck going to the dealer for repairs. Old, good luck finding parts
I honestly prefer the silent acceleration of an EV, all the sounds are annoying. I have fun accelerating from every traffic light to 50 km/h in a blink of an eye. I can have fun on my commute, save money and as a side effect “save the planet”. Without annoying everyone around me.
If only McLaren brought back the body of the F1 with suitably blistering electrics, I’d overthrow a few small nations to get one…
If they manage to fit the engine in such a flat vehicle, I’d be impressed. The only company going as low as a corvette is aspark, and I don’t even know when or if they’re actually going to deliver those things. And they cost 3kk usd each.
Electric cars just aren’t entertaining. They’re not entertaining to watch race, and they’re not entertaining to drive.
I don’t find any races entertaining to watch. Electric gets me from point a to point b extreme rapidly, and that’s where I find my fun. In instantly flying past the doofus ahead who’s driving 10 under the limit and arriving at my destination without aggravation. Doubling my speed to catch the next green cycle. Hauling what I need without worrying about space. Never hearing “oh, you’re a ___ guy.” It’s just a fast car with trunk space to me. Romanticization of cars is utterly absent in me.
You sound like a reckless driver. Remind me to stay at home when you’re driving.
Please do. Sitting behind slow moving, hesitant, unpredictable drivers is agony. I imagine you choose not to use your blinker, seize the gap, or follow the flow of traffic like everyone else in this godforsaken city.
If I see you crawling down the freeway on-ramp at half the speed of the drivers you’re attempting to merge between, I will transfer to you the aneurysm you planted within me by sheer force of will as I pass by you.
You imagine total bullshit my friend. I always use my blinkers, go with the flow and ‘sieze’ gaps when it’s safe to do so.
I don’t have any iaea which city you’re referring to but I’m sure it’s nowhere close to where I live.
Please, if you’re going to drive recklessly and put yourself at risk, at least don’t take other innocent drivers or pedestrians with you.
I apologize if this comes off as rude, but you’re currently incapable of extrapolating enough information to have a conversation about how to drive. I assuredly hold fewer or equal points on my decades old license, likely maintain distance better than you do, and drive more defensively than you do.
Cease attempting to look out for people while looking through the lens of someone speaking out of frustration about street racers and geriatrics. You do not even understand enough to ask questions.
You are so full of yourself that it’s hard to believe. Go learn some manners and a bit of humility.
Does 0 points beat you? I’ve never gotten a speeding ticket in my life.
It does not beat me. We are equal in points. However, I understand that I cannot know how someone drives based solely on an internet rant, you absolute goober.
I am not full of myself, I respond to abrasion
It’s okay you are allowed to just say you don’t like ICE cars
I shouldn’t feel this nostalgic for ancient bait setups. Your bones hurt too?
The 3-year old in their head likes it when it say big wroom