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irate944@piefed.social to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldEnglish · 10 days ago

They're F*ing trying again

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They're F*ing trying again

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    Funny how they’re trying so hard to catch pedos not won’t arrest a single motherfucker in the Epstein files

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      That’s not true; they arrested one!

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        Only because they really wanted to already. Boo

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          Also they kinda killed him so he couldn’t talk.

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            This is about the EU guys, France just took on the case

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              Oh I mean globally, because the pedo class all have private jets.

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    https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

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      Jesus. I’m not in the EU, but how is this the first I’m hearing about this?

      Time to go back to email and GnuPG.

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        Because they’re trying to suppress the public reaction.

        You won’t hear about this on prime-time TV news, and it’s even censored on some more popular parts of the internet, like Reddit.

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    Never forget that Epstein was talking about fucking children in plaintext on Gmail and they did nothing whenever you see politicians say encryption should be illegal so they can capture criminals.

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      If they wanted to do anything about pedophiles, they could.

      Motherless is in the Netherlands, an EU country, right? A website that has hosted child pornography for more than a decade (Amanda Todd killed herself in 2012)? They took it down for a little while after that whole “global network of guys raping their sleeping partners and uploading it” thing earlier this year, but it’s up again. I doubt it would take more than 10 minutes to find illegal content on there right now.

      It’s all a farce. It’s entirely possible to target individuals making and distributing CSAM, but it’s much easier to do nothing and use it as an excuse to spy on citizens.

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        It makes much more sense when you realize that most of the old, white men with money or political power are the ones looking at those sites.

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          Good! We can make a list, for after the revolution

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      I’m only holding out on going KoS on ANY politician because I still need to be alive to do some things.

      I have no ethical or physical issue with grabbing one of them, and dragging them into a bush.

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    If I ever, ever somehow end up living in a world where it’s not possible to communicate with someone digitally and be completely encrypted, if we get to a point where you MUST put your ID into signal and have the government scan all signal messages, I’ll probably just kill myself.

    And take a few politicians with me at the very least.

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      Oh, come on.

      You can still DIY shit like Meshtastic

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        Been building out a mesh network bit by bit locally. Its pretty cool.

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          My guy building own ice, to be ready for 2077

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        I mean, that’s hardly realistic or useful for most people. Convincing someone to download an app is one thing. Convincing them to build a communication relay is another.

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          I’ve persuaded a few. It took years and they all hate me now, but I did it.

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      … where it’s not possible to communicate with someone digitally…

      I’d be thrilled to go back to that, if what we’re getting now instead is the only other option. But, I grew up in the before-times, so I’m not so put off by the idea.

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        You’re still getting surveilled in real-life conversations … if anyone in the conversation is stupid enough to bring their phone or other ‘smart’ device (including any modern car).

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          And they are. They’re all that stupid.

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            The George Floyd protests in my city were all organized on Facebook.

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              Part of the reason I dont organize anymore.

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      You cannot ban cryptography, so the messenger is not the problem. You can control computing hardware tho…

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      Check out Briar and Meshtastic

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        Great, teach mesh computing to an elderly relative 10k miles away that can’t even log onto a banking website

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          I don’t know why you’re being hostile. Options are good, I didn’t ever say that it would fit every scenario.

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      You could always get really into steganography

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      I hope you live in DC. Or Florida.

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    I say, “Arm up and kill authoritarians.” Likelihood is that you’ll also kill lots of pedos at the same time.

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      Sure would be nice if we could reform economically instead. Not that I feel bad for the pedos or the tyrants, but a lot of other people will have a very bad time if shit really hits the fan without some sort of economic plan in place.

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        Yeah. Sucks we don’t have anarchists building power and survival systems outside state and capital’s control. That would be awfully useful about now.

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          Can you educate me about anarchists a bit? When you say survival systems, do you mean social systems? Also does anarchism intersect with libertarianism at all?

          The reason I ask is that I am building those systems, specifically server software intended to allow groups of people to found their own cooperatives as economic survival mechanisms. It’s a form of democratic socialism, so I don’t know how that squares with your world view.

          I suppose if you wanted privacy and decoupling from the dollar you could deal in monero instead, as it will have currency support. I just worry about the power consumption with crypto.

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            do they interact with libertarians

            Only when they have kids they need to protect

            what do they do

            Nothing, they mostly don’t exist

            survival projects, like keeping track of who owns what

            Oh my god watching you die is gonna be so fucking funny. I meant like making food and medicine in actual reality so people don’t physically die when systems currently doing this break down.

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              Oh my god watching you die is gonna be so fucking funny. I meant like making food and medicine in actual reality so people don’t physically die when systems currently doing this break down.

              You do realize that without a social structure someone will just come take your food and medicine away from you, right?

              But hey, I guess didn’t really expect someone espousing anarchy to want to learn anyway.

              Good luck friend.

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                Are they hungry/dying of not having medicine? If so; mission accomplished. Do they want me to keep making more?

                You’re right though; what’s important and resilient in the face of social collapse is a block chain based ordering of who owns what.

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                  Not sure why you’re such a hostile person. In fact I think it’s great that you know how to make medicine. I think it would be better if you had a lab and a team to work with, but I suppose we just think differently.

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        Shit is going to hit the fan. This is all unsustainable.

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      That’s not true. Don’t assume you’ll get more than like two before they get you.

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        Don’t underestimate my 10000 hours in counter strike, half of which was playing as terrorists!

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          Hey, anyone who is against fascism is apparently considered a terrorist by the current US administration. Under the current guidelines, if you aren’t a terrorist, then you likely aren’t a good person.

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          Oh. Shit. Okay. Please don’t hurt me.

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    To be fair they do seem to think it would really catch pedophiles; why else would they exclude themselves?

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      But what would be the point? Nobody’s doing anything about the high-profile pedophiles we already know. And kids have a bunch of other more common needs that are being conveniently ignored. The maths ain’t mathing

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        I’m just calling them pedophiles. Please be either unintelligent or anti-fun, not both. Anti-intellectual spaces without stupid jokes are the worst.

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    *fucking. You can type fucking on the internet. Don’t worry, we won’t tell your mommy.

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      You also don’t have to either? Weird thing to be triggered about.

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        How are you defining “triggered”? I keep seeing it used this way, and it makes no sense.

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    It’s already done Sir. Our private data is again being scanned by US corporations to protect our children.

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      * to better optimize ads, and to sell AI surveillance to crackpot dictators.

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        Hey sudden increase of insurance price is just algorithm not that we sold your hashed house photos to the insurance company. There is no shazam for photos right ?

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      It’s being scanned by everyone and everything that has access to scan it. Probably your own government too, even if you have laws supposedly prohibiting that.

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    How can they stop me from just doing this: U2FsdGVkX19+NGkQMc6FHt46SCVJ0SWyaPd8zo6lqiZ3V0H+IbR/EKhIt9B+o8Bu

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      Inform me pls

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        Some keyboards (e.g. KryptEY) allow you to exchange keys for E2E encryption with your companion and exchange messages encrypted.

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        How can they stop people from just sending encrypted messages?

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          “Punish one, educate hundreds” (Mao i guess?)

          Throw the book against a couple of cases where encrypted messaging is involved and tell the public “We don’t know what they wrote… COULD BE $DISGUSTING_CONTENT…”

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    Time has come for moving towards [email protected] Politicians be Politicing too much with themselves in mind.

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    Where will we run when the whole world burns?

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      We won’t we will block the air intake and exhaust and entrances and exits in these billionaire bunkers and rebuild the world as stewards of the earth. To do this we will have to identify and diagnose narcissism and psychopathy to treat it as a disease rather than reward it.

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      https://youtu.be/g1Sq1Nr58hM

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    As an american using Proton, shit

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      Proton is swiss. Switzerland is not EU so they’re not affected

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        Fuck, my American is showing…

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          Your inner Cuno is coming out

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        Proton is swiss, but they moved out data out of Switzerland because laws changed negatively. Not sure where it is now, but eu i believe

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          Source? Website says they’re in Geneva Switzerland

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            It was all over the internet last year:

            • www.tomsguide.com/computing/vpns/proton-refuses-to-be-held-hostage-by-controversial-swiss-surveillance-law
            • www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/is-proton-leaving-switzerland-legal-uncertainty-of-proposed-surveillance-laws-is-pushing-them-to-make-several-changes
            • www.heise.de/en/news/Surveillance-Proton-relocates-parts-of-its-infrastructure-from-Switzerland-10538664.html
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              Great they moved to EU countries

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                One positive is that if they’ve moved once they might do it again. The cat and mouse game sucks but if they’re not acting like a life mouse they end up being eaten anyway.

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    here we go once again to being fucking embarrassed to be European.

    the first try of this made me stop voting altogether because all the fucking parties on my country were a YES. Fuck politicians, hope they all get killed.

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    genuine question, im not in the EU, how would this affect self hosted/federated E2EE chat services like Matrix and XMPP?

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      As always in these cases… it depends if backdoors will be mandated. Maybe not in the first version… maybe in the cond or third… you need to make people to accept things a bit at the time

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    if they really wanted to catch pedophiles they’d be in D.C. right now

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