It will be a while as the distance and mountains mean they are much harder to hit. Not that Ukraine can’t hit them, but the vast majority of what they have cannot reach that far, and they rest they need to choose targets.
Right. And at some point then comes the decision of ROI. Leaving those final two untouched is more than likely more than worth it when there are so many other targets worth hitting / rehitting with the current resources*
That includes the actual drones and all the time/people/intel investment needed.
Yeah but this is like grinding MMO raids for the last bit of gear to drop in a set that you need, sometimes you just got to do it for the sense of completion.
Don’t you want to be able to hang a poster with a map of all the oil infrastructure with nice little explosion icons for the map pins and a list of dates a location was hit for every location of that type in russia?
The sum is more than all the parts put together here is what I am saying.
I mean, I hear you. But also, no. This is literally a war of attrition and inflicting max logistical societal pain possible for the lowest cost to achieve a desired outcome. If doing as you say can further than, then yes, but there are likely much better targets to hit for now.
Ukrainian balloon drones are a thing tho. At least in testing. They float very high, then the drone detaches from the balloon and attacks: https://aerospaceglobalnews.com/news/ukraine-balloon-drone-carriers/
The problem is just, the balloon goes where the wind goes. If the wind only blows wrong way among all air layers, you can’t attack.
Yup, I’m aware of those. Not a new concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_aircraft_carrier And you’re right, that sort of research effort has to happen rather than be diverted purely to operations. So if they can make it happen, and the weather cooperates, GREAT, meanwhile hitting those last two sites is still probably not worth too much extra effort vs revisiting other targets. But it costs nothing to check the weather in the meantime ;-)
ETA: but don’t forget those drones are not going to be wire guided, so unless they also have automated targeting and non-GPS location services, they are going to get jammed to hell. Also, launching one might “fly under the radar” so to speak, but one isn’t going to do it. So then you have to have a swarm. And you know what a swarm of high altitude ballons does? Stand out on radar and move slow. Making it very easy for a defender to mount a defense.
Can we set up a betting pool or several on here? No reason to bring those wall street parasites into it. We could set up a small betting pool ourselves. I have no insight into this, but other stuff.
Bets as to when those last two are hit?
Not soon enough
It will be a while as the distance and mountains mean they are much harder to hit. Not that Ukraine can’t hit them, but the vast majority of what they have cannot reach that far, and they rest they need to choose targets.
Everything in Europe has been hit.
Right. And at some point then comes the decision of ROI. Leaving those final two untouched is more than likely more than worth it when there are so many other targets worth hitting / rehitting with the current resources*
Yeah but this is like grinding MMO raids for the last bit of gear to drop in a set that you need, sometimes you just got to do it for the sense of completion.
Don’t you want to be able to hang a poster with a map of all the oil infrastructure with nice little explosion icons for the map pins and a list of dates a location was hit for every location of that type in russia?
The sum is more than all the parts put together here is what I am saying.
I mean, I hear you. But also, no. This is literally a war of attrition and inflicting max logistical societal pain possible for the lowest cost to achieve a desired outcome. If doing as you say can further than, then yes, but there are likely much better targets to hit for now.
maybe one of the balloon drones can hit it. depends on wind tho
and russia not just downing it with another drone. not like it would be hard to spot.
But I like your out of the box thinking.
Ukrainian balloon drones are a thing tho. At least in testing. They float very high, then the drone detaches from the balloon and attacks: https://aerospaceglobalnews.com/news/ukraine-balloon-drone-carriers/ The problem is just, the balloon goes where the wind goes. If the wind only blows wrong way among all air layers, you can’t attack.
Yup, I’m aware of those. Not a new concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_aircraft_carrier And you’re right, that sort of research effort has to happen rather than be diverted purely to operations. So if they can make it happen, and the weather cooperates, GREAT, meanwhile hitting those last two sites is still probably not worth too much extra effort vs revisiting other targets. But it costs nothing to check the weather in the meantime ;-)
ETA: but don’t forget those drones are not going to be wire guided, so unless they also have automated targeting and non-GPS location services, they are going to get jammed to hell. Also, launching one might “fly under the radar” so to speak, but one isn’t going to do it. So then you have to have a swarm. And you know what a swarm of high altitude ballons does? Stand out on radar and move slow. Making it very easy for a defender to mount a defense.
Can we set up a betting pool or several on here? No reason to bring those wall street parasites into it. We could set up a small betting pool ourselves. I have no insight into this, but other stuff.
I’m getting fucking betting ads in my Ukrainian war updates now…
Kidding mostly…but we don’t need to introduce betting to any more than what it’s already intertwined with