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    I complained to my mother that the new dentist hurt me. She said I was being over-dramatic. Months later, she went to him and told me that he hurt her. No acknowledgment that I’d complained of the same. Teenager, obv.

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    Never trust a medical profession that hasn’t changed their standard techniques since the Dark Ages. And it also explains why they didn’t join medical doctors in the AMA and created their own ADA with hookers, cocaine and blackjack.

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      Look, I hate them too, but they aren’t Bender. Don’t hold them to a standard that’s impossible.

      Omg, did it just take my >20y to associate Bender with drinking on a bender? I’m so stupid.

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      The dentist I use now is also a maxillofacial surgeon.
      She discovered that my previous dentist was completely ignoring issues that would have left me toothless, lose part of my jaw, and even kill me with meningitis.
      And the guy had made a TAC that clearly showed it all. Dude was laser-focused on getting just implants and more implants to rack those bucks, let tooth repair be damned.
      I was lucky that the infection was kept perfectly isolated for years in a granuloma, because my freakishly high pain threshold kept me from noticing it at all.
      I’m not going to a ‘dentist’ who just studied ‘dentistry’ ever again.

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    This reminds me of a lyric by good old John Prine…“We are living in the future. I’ll tell you how I know. I read it in the paper, 15 years ago”.

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    We are getting there. There are human trials for a medicine that regrows teeth and another that restores teeth.

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      Yeah, have been reading about that for the last 20 years. Dentists are still just drilling and refilling holes or pulling teeth. Just like they did 200 years ago.

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        That’s why I mentioned that they finally reached human trials. That’s the last big step before they can be released. New technology needs time to go from the lab to practical use.

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          Mercury amalgum’s still the standard afaik. Or, the next alternative, iirc, is some kind of hormone disregulating plastic?

          May as well be lead. Oh but lead’s poisonous. Lets use cadmium. … Is the type of crazy non-logic the mercury poisoned brain thinks is fine.

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      Dentists would rather kill a man than allow that to happen. There’s too much money involved.

      Dentists are the reason why they cost so much, why regular insurance doesn’t cover them, and why they are exempt from the Obamacare rules like lifetime maximums.

      https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/industries/summary?id=H1400

      https://nypan.org/about/news-and-updates/2021/12/12/i-know-how-lobbyists-make-sure-americans-dont-get-dental-carei-was-one-of-them

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        My gf getting her wisdom teeth taken out was a super disheartening experience; the surgeon(s) she saw were super nice and did well but literally no insurance will cover it even thought it’s RECOMMENDED to get them taken out as preventative care.

        Unless something very painful and dangerous is already happening most hospitals apparently won’t even take you seriously if you have state insurance and need your wisdom teeth covered.

        They WONT EVEN FUCKING LET YOU GO INTO DEBT THEY JUST STRAIGHT UP SAY NO!!! For a 40 minute procedure that can literally save your whole jaw and all of your teeth!!! 3000$ later and she still couldn’t get one extracted because it’s inside of her other tooth… but that STILL ISN’T a good enough reason for it to be covered by insurance, I guess it literally needs to almost kill you or make you loose a few teeth and jaw bone before most practices would consider you eligible, and it still ain’t covered because somehow it’s considered “elective surgery “.

        Sorry for the rant this shit is getting me heated again to think about lol anyways ya fuck the insurance industry most dentists to the gulags etc etc

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    Delicate and precise organs deserve delicate and precise treatment. Durable organs get the drill.

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      If you’re implying teeth are so durable. Why do they need yearly attention?

      My spleen has never once needed a cleaning, and it certainly does not need its own luxury insurance (that covers almost nothing).

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        Your spleen wouldn’t be very durable if it was being constantly being pressed against hard foods at around 30 psi multiple times a day for your entire life.

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          Not just mechanical stress, but sugars and carbohydrates in those foods feed the bacteria in the mouth, whose byproducts damage the enamel. Few people are blessed with teeth that withstand it, or mouth flora that is non-damaging, but there is no natural selection for that… Because we have dentistry, thankfully.

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    Dentistry has made quite a few leaps. When I was young fillings were metal. Now they are a putty that dries within seconds with uv light shine upon it.

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        I had the same for my last guard (to keep me from grinding teeth at night). The previous guard relied on a mold, which I swear loosened a filling that fell out a week or two later.

        The tech is pretty amazing. They still need a drill though.

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        Some are. My kid just got some in a few months ago, look just like what I had in the 90s

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          UV resin, basically, just super high resolution that makes it incredibly expensive (even the cheaper models used for quick check measurements by dentists cost $20k+ - that is, latest tech, brand new from manufacturer, before someone drops a link for a used unit from 2018 for 10 grand). But the sheer volume makes up for it, a single printer like that can be generating pure profit within a year.

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            Eh, I’m not sure about that. I have an Invisalign retainer and have been 3d printing for a few years now, and from the looks of it they just did a regular FDM printing of the teeth then vacuume-formed plastic over that. Having printed the same files myself (dentist was happy to give the scan to me), and seeing as the retainer has very visible layer lines on the inside (too thick for resin printing), that seems more likely.

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            Incredible, and thanks for the reply.

            I was thinking it had to be a resin printer. What I thought was curious was the potential for bacteria in the layer lines, I guess with this type of printer, whatever proprietary material they’re using (lol), and the proper sanitation methods, it’s probably not an issue.

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    Orthopedic surgeon:

    *repeatedly pulls string attempting to start up a chainsaw*

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      My kid’s orthopedist had a saw that was a pizza cutter sized cutting wheel, and it stopped when it touched your skin. He demonstrated on his own hand before he started removing cast.

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        it stopped when it touched skin, or it didn’t cut the skin?

        the cast saws that I am familiar with have an oscillating motion that is small enough that skin just moves with the teeth instead of being cut by them. a saw that had sensors to know when it touched skin seems unlikely.

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          That sounds correct, I think he might have explained it that way but I was too cooked by watching him use a cast saw on his bare hand to retain.

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          a saw that had sensors to know when it touched skin seems unlikely

          I’ve never seen it in a healthcare setting, but that kind of safety mechanism is already a thing in larger saws - some pretty impressive demos on the web. Iirc it effectively destroys the machine if it goes off, but most of us would rather buy a new table saw than lose a few fingers. …and that was the tech years ago, may well have improved since I went down that rabbit hole.

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            Saw stop still owns the patent afaik and has even stopped other similar techs from taking hold because the patent is so stupid generic… Iirc Bosch is one such alt that got shit canned. Last I knew saw stop was pushing for legislation to require the tech… Because they own the market.

            (I am years out of date on this and going on memory… Pretty sure the legislation died)

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    They can get a 3d image of a featus by ultra sound but for some reason prostate exam is still a finger up the butt 👉

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      It’s because it’s right there and requires no special equipment to get the job done. I never really got why people freak out about a finger back there, you constantly pass fecal matter several times that thick through there. If they could fully check that a baby was ok safely with their finger they’d do it.

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      Unlike in the movies, doctors usually aren’t trained in sonography. Sure they could figure out how to scan a prostate, but they aren’t gonna go out and buy a fancy 3d ultrasound just for men over 45, and they aren’t going to become, or hire, sonogram techs.

      And I’d rather take a finger in the butt than have to have another fucking appointment. No pun intended, but it’s one finger. Unless my doctor is Andre The Giant or E.T., I think I could handle it.

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    I had a tooth extracted a couple of months ago, and even though it wasn’t my first rodeo (brush your teeth properly, kids), I was still amazed at how barbaric the process is. The dentist was only just short of standing on my chest so he could properly yank at it, all the while shards of exploded tooth were flying around the room.

    Fair play though, he did it quickly and cleanly.

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      shards of exploded tooth were flying around the room

      quickly and cleanly

      I…I think you and I have different definitions of “cleanly”. Also, please excuse me while I go and clean my teeth again!

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        Have you checked your wisdom teeth? If they’re not in order then they might need to be removed.

        Mine took more than an hour to remove. It had hooked ends so that made it difficult.

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      I had a fucked wisdom tooth out, and as he grabbed it with the pliers I heard it crunch and collapse on itself and the dentist went “oh…”

      Which isn’t a noise you want to hear from a dentist, but again he did the job.

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      Not as extreme, but one of my kids had to have a cavity filled. He struggles with some sensory issues, so I was staying close by to help keep him calm.

      Knowing what happens and seeing your kid’s tooth enamel getting drilled away are two… very different experiences. Like with you though, they were quick, clean, and precise!

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      My wife has had some bad luck with dentists.

      First was the wisdom teeth. Still to this day unsure of if it was a result of the extraction, but immediately after she developed an abscess on her tonsils.

      The abscess needed to be drained in the ER, it was so painful. And the draining was painful, too. Not like they got Novocaine there. And then she got her tonsils removed as a result.

      Then last time she had an extraction, the tooth shattered below the gum line. Dentist had her for like three hours getting all the chunks out. Her jaw was sore for like a week, not only from the extraction but also from holding that damn position for so long.

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      Shit man I’m glad I’m not a surgeon.

      Could you imagine having to take 3 or 4 trips to Home Depot while your patient is just lieing on the bed, passed out and split open?