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      Look, I hope Trump gets skinned alive like that girl at the end of Martyrs, but that ornament is clearly an entirely different design. Compare the proportions of the top third, and the squiggly bit at the bottom.

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        Let’s be honest it was probably still 60 bucks with the rest of the mark up miraculously ending up in a bank account that can’t be traced.

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          Nah. It’s actual gold. The more expensive the better. Why? It was bought with government dollars. I’m sure it was bought from a Trump-linked company, and it earned the president a massive “campaign donation” Maybe the fair market value is $100k. The company sold it to the White House for $250k. In return, the company made a $125k ‘campaign donation’ to the president.

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    America… where the Republicans are pro-monarch, and the liberals support larger government intervention. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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    I recently learned that King Charles was good friends with Jimmy Savile. I’m sure it’s a coincidence his brother, Andrew, was good friends with Jeffrey Epstein. Funny how those two child trafficking rings were two degrees of separation.

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      This is the fediverse; shitting on the US is its favorite pastime, even when the US isn’t involved.

      Well, maybe second favorite pastime after talking about Linux.

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      That’s because he’s recently been on a state visit to the US where he was unanimously welcomed by all of Washington, with none of the politicians of either party bringing up how absurdly anti-denocratic and elitist monarchy is.

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        To be fair, while having a monarchy is bullshit, it’s still less ridiculous than electing Donald Trump president.

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          it’s still less ridiculous than electing Donald Trump president

          True, but so are 99.999999% of all things that have ever happened in the history of all possible realities.

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        Im not really a fan of the monarchy but I feel like your assessment might be a little unfair.

        He gave a speech to congress and hilighted a lot of ways in which republicans are undermining democracy, and a lot about how Trump is destabilising global politics for no benefit.

        In that speech, literally in the lions den, he was more critical of Trumpism than any world leader has been in recent months.

        He can get away with it because hes a head of state, yet he has no control - the unique position of a monarch in a modern democracy.

        The silly hat is silly, but traditional garb always is.

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          Don’t forget he is the head of state of a close ally. You should be nice to your allies’ heads of state when they visit your country.

          At least as a politician. The rest of us can rage

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            Don’t forget he is the head of state of a close ally. You should be nice to your allies’ heads of state when they visit your country.

            I think we should arrest him and put him on trial for 69.3 million counts of kidnapping and involuntary servitude. He’s guilty of kidnapping and enslaving an entire nation! We should put on trial under anti-slavery laws. What more is “subject” than a polite word for “slave?”

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            Yeah it’s not like he doesn’t know where America officially stands on the British monarchy. That’s like the one thing you can’t criticize us for compared to the other English speaking settler colonial nations.

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          while he’s here in the USA he should show some respect for our customs by wearing a MAGA hat & speaking our language!!!

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          Ifeel like your assessment might be a little unfair

          I wholeheartedly disagree. If anything, I’m being too lenient on the ultraleech and his enablers.

          He gave a speech to congress and hilighted a lot of ways in which republicans are undermining democracy

          While that’s absolutely true, that rings EXTREMELY hollow coming from the head of the richest example of the most antidemocratic relic of the past.

          Monarchy even existing inherently undermines democracy.

          In that speech, literally in the lions den, he was more critical of Trumpism than any world leader has been in recent months

          Even if that was true (and I very much doubt it), it would still smack of hypocrisy coming from an ACTUAL king that personally owns more of the world’s real estate than any other human and shielded his child abusing brother for decades before finally relenting to public pressure with the utmost reluctance.

          yet he has no control

          Officially, he has very little control and a gentleman’s agreement not to use whatever institutional power he DOES have unless absolutely necessary, sure.

          In reality, though, he can and will break that agreement and exceed that authority whenever he feels like it and the worst that’ll happen to him is being criticized by some of the press for a while.

          a monarch in a modern democracy.

          Is a contradiction of terms if I ever saw one.

          Hell, the UK “democracy” isn’t even that modern BESIDES him and his immediate family: ever hear of a little thing called the House of Lords?

          The silly hat is silly, but traditional garb always is.

          It’s far past time to abandon tradition for tradition’s sake.

          It’s just peer pressure from dead people, and in the case of the UK monarchy, it’s wasting billions in public resources.

          Meanwhile, regular people in the UK are increasingly impoverished and suffering under draconian austerity policies.

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              If it’s done well, the evolution of the British House of Lords is actually really promising.

              It seems to be becoming a “House of Experts”. IMO elections result in a people of a certain personality type winning. There are a lot of people who would make excellent legislators who wouldn’t win that kind of popularity contest. There are also a lot of decisions that are unpopular in the short term (1 election cycle) but critical in the long term. If all legislators are facing re-election every 2-5 years it’s hard for them to pass those critical laws.

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              While that’s DEFINITELY an important step in the right direction well worth celebrating, they’re still unelected elites who get a say on the laws of the land.

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            Its never time to abandon tradition just for the sake of it. That’s how you lose history.

            Retire it for good reason, or repurpose it for the betterment of all. Tradition is a symbol and a pillar of community.

            Even the British monarchy has a place in the modern world. Banishing it to the shadow realm just because it’s out of date is not the right call. There are plenty of other options that doesn’t just throw out the baby with the bath water.

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              Its never time to abandon tradition just for the sake of it. That’s how you lose history.

              That’s not what I’m suggesting at all.

              I’m saying to keep traditions that have meaning to us beyond merely being tradition and stop wasting time, effort, and resources on the rest.

              Retire it for good reason, or repurpose it for the betterment of all.

              Agreed 100%

              Tradition is a symbol and a pillar of community.

              Though often not in a positive sense.

              Even the British monarchy has a place in the modern world

              100% disagree.

              Banishing it to the shadow realm just because it’s out of date is not the right call

              It’s not just because it’s out of date. It’s akso because it’s a gigantic waste of public resources and otherwise an inherently abusive exemplar of immense unearned privilege.

              There are plenty of other options that doesn’t just throw out the baby with the bath water.

              Bad choice of analogy. If the monarchy fits at all, it’s the filthy and cold bath water that’s no longer of use and is currently giving the baby, society, hypothermia.

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            king that personally owns more of the world’s real estate than any other human

            Pure hysterics. He isn’t even the biggest landowner in the UK. He personally owns 46,000 hectares, while Anders Holch Povlsen owns 89,000.

            shielded his child abusing brother for decades before finally relenting to public pressure with the utmost reluctance.

            How did he “shield” him for decades? Charles has always resented Andrew and got rid of him as soon as he became King. Certainly without reluctance and probably with a spring in his step.

            he can and will break that agreement and exceed that authority whenever he feels like it and the worst that’ll happen to him is being criticized by some of the press for a while.

            As Parliament has proven in the past they can make a King suffer for thinking about exceeding constitutional boundaries.

            ever hear of a little thing called the House of Lords

            Which is an upper house mainly appointed by governments. It’s democratic, but not the form of democracy some people want.

            in the case of the UK monarchy, it’s wasting billions in public resources.

            Citation needed. The British monarchy (at £85m annual cost) is significantly cheaper than the French Presidency (£94m, excl. lifetime pension) for example.

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        Lol yeah the US is a real bastard here for being friendly to the foreign leader they’re hosting. Really good take, you should run for office

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        So what, are we supposed to be insulting our allies and pushing them to change their system of government now? Like, yeah we should for the Saudis and Israel, but there are better things for us to criticize the UK for and we’re really in a glass house at the moment. And beyond all that, it’s not like our country’s official position on the British crown and monarchy in general has been unclear.

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      Ain’t nothing people love more then to be racist and xenophobic. And Lemmy has a massive love of abusing the USA.

      Half the time it’s well deserved to be fair, but ain’t goanna stop people from being shit stains every chance they get!

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      It’s weird that the US makes this an everyone problem, but that’s the last hundred years of globalism

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    it’s interesting, because the royals preach that poor people need help. meanwhile, this douche and his “family” are bringing in millions for doing… jack fucking shit?

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      I don’t know if I agree with the regular billionaires being any better (since the vast majority of those owe most if not all of their dragon hoards to privileges not available to regular people and are equally kept from ever losing it via laws that favor them over everyone else), but you’re ABSOLUTELY 100% spot on about the rest and I couldn’t agree more!

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      It is weird that the royals top side quest is like helping poor people. Meanwhile, they wear a stolen diamond worth a billion dollars on their crown.

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        exactly my point. He preaches “SAVE THE POOR!” from his GOLDEN FUCKING THRONE. the fuck is he doing to save the poor? getting richer, that’s what.

        fuck. now I’m angry.

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          fuck. now I’m angry.

          I’m sorry he’s ruining your mood, but being pissed off is ABSOLUTELY the most fitting reaction to both the concept and specifics of royalty somehow still existing in the 21st century.

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        They also try to save the environment by flying on private jets all over the world whilst leaving the heating on in their several mansions.

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      I get you. I really do. But let me offer you some perspective. Monarchs are born into their role. They have no choice in the matter and are raised according to a blueprint of what a monarch shall be. They have no power, no voice, no vote.

      I do get you. They don’t know strife or hardship. But for the love od me, I’d never would have wanted to be born as a crown prince.

      Now lets talk about their appendages (brothers, sisters, offspring), who do get a lot of money for being born, they heve a vote, freedom, power and a voice. The aristocrasy is what is costing the tax payer a lot of monies.

      Billionaires on the other hand chose to hoard and not to share.

      Personally, I don’t mind a monarch, if they’d be paid at the same rate as government officers and only thw monarch. The rest of the family can go to work like normal people.

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        That would be more correct if the royals didn’t regularly petition parliament to change laws that financially impact them.

        The late queen did so on several occasions. Many of these law changes were not friendly to the environment either.

        There are monarchs around the world who have stepped down and reframed their roles as part of modern democracy, yet the British ones cling to a particularly out of touch model.

        They also tried to cover up the shenanigans of a peodphile sibling too.

        So, sure, they are born into it, but that’s no excuse for what they do and to suggest they don’t know any better is a shallow view of humanity that supposes an inability for empathy.

        Besides that, the monarchy acts as a symbol that some people are better and more elevated than others – decreed by god – only through the process of birth. This is a cornerstone of all nationalism, racism, and xenophobia that has no place in a modern civilisation.

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          Liz was protecting her shitstain son. When Charlie came in, he at least did something even if it wasn’t what we wanted. Hopefully Randy Andy sees justice soon. Very soon.

          decreed by God

          The thing about that is, there were royals born RECENTLY, who were intellectually challenged. They tried to bury that in the news, but they couldn’t. They basically dumped those two women in a group home and told no one about them.

          Edit: there were a few actually. https://www.theroyalobserver.com/p/queen-elizabeth-cousins-locked-away-psycho-ward

          From that link, two of the women were together for 60 years or more, but then they were separated and one of them died just 4 months later. They were reportedly inseparable. And they separated them after decades. Is this the kind of people we want to worship? Fuck those cunts.

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      these fucktards wouldn’t know a day of struggle in their lives.

      Hey now. Have you tried not raping children for a week? I heard it’s not easy.

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      Wow let’s be 100% fair it’s hard having choices and opportunities and living up to be pompous but not seeming too pompous.

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      Whether or not a country has a monarchy doesn’t mean much as far as their system of government. All the Scandinavian countries have royal families, while the US, Israel, and Russia do not. Which countries are the most totalitarian?

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        Danish royalty is just as immoral as British royalty. This is pretty much the same as being religious while talking down other religions. No one should be treated like royalty, full stop. Its never made sense and it never will, its just coercion and manipulation turning people against themselves.

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          I don’t disagree, but in terms of real world effects the existence of a monarchy is less important than what power they actually wield.

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            I think large societies believing in this flawed social structure has immense real world effect, but you are right that not all of them wield the same practical power.

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      The fact that like 3/4 of all people are religious says more about the general stupidity IMO

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      Austrian here, we got rid off our monarchy (ok, the Entente helped a bit in blowing up our/their empire …) Sort of, we still give them pseudo state funerals when they die. It is also great fun, people from all the realms are joining, dressing up with flags and all, enjoying a good funeral and than bits and pieces (heart and whatever) are sent to various places across the realms, as is tradition. The UK, and soon the US, should try it some time. After the funeral, everyone goes home again, including the Austrian President and do their Republic thing until the next funeral.

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      And Germany has a president.

      I can guarantee you that unless you’re german you know that the post exists and even more likely you don’t have a clue who the president is and what they do.

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    I feel very comfortable with saying that they symbolise the failures of the human races much better than almost anything else.

    1. Fascism - there is an obvious link
    2. Classism - there is an obvious link
    3. Pedophilia - there is an obvious link
    4. Colonisation- there is an obvious link
    5. Exploitation …
    6. Politics by old people for old people
    7. Traditionalism

    You get the point. What is wrong with the world? A picture of these people would be a matching picture, no matter what answer you want to provide.

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    I DARE you to google “WWF king of the ring”, and then click the images tab.

    Yes, pro wrestling is all bullshit, but the difference is actual kings wear that garb as tradition dating back hundreds of years. WWF/WWE only did this shit for like 15 years, before they realized it’s stupid. But they still DID it for 15 years.

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        Yeah right! Next you’re gonna tell me the sportsball mascot doesn’t sleep in their uniform!

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      actual kings wear that garb as tradition dating back hundreds of years.

      That’s an appeal to tradition fallacy. Just because they’ve been doing crazy and wasteful stuff for a long time doesn’t make it objectively less crazy and wasteful.

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        What exactly is wasteful about wearing some old clothes for a ceremony?

        A ceremony that brings in significant funds through tourism.

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    Eh, if we’re just talking about the fit, I’m kinda okay with a king as like a powerless cultural mascot if the people like it. Powerless being the operative word.

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      Problem is that they’re NOT powerless. Even in the constitutional monarchies of Europe where they’re SUPPOSED to be almost purely ceremonial figureheads, their wealth and social status means that they still DO have and abuse a shitload of power, political and otherwise.

      Plus, that fit isn’t just a fit. The crown alone is worth hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars in diamonds and precious metals and the reason why the coat is that ugly yellow is that it’s spun from GOLD THREAD.

      That’s right, he’s LITERALLY wearing more wealth than the average million people will ever see in their lifetimes…

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        Which would be why I said “powerless” was the operative word.

        “Billions of dollars in diamonds and precious metals” is a spook in the first place.