• leriotdelac@lemmy.zip
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    17 hours ago

    I hate everything that’s being done. A large part of my family lives there, and just getting them on a call is now not an easy task.

    (I mean, I hate Putin and his government for many other things too. Restricted Internet perhaps is the least of their crimes, but this least is getting longer and longer and longer…)

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      16 hours ago

      Obtain a Kasachstan or Byelorus sim card, install it on a burner phone with the Max messenger for minimal overall pain.

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        15 hours ago

        I won’t use Max under any circumstances and won’t recommend it to my family. Testing out SimpleX for now.

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          I have no interest nor trust in Max, but as long as the Cheburnet Wars continue it will be the easiest way for nontechnical people to make voice calls.

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      11 hours ago

      Alternate payment methods. As far as I know, only PayPal and credit cards don’t work. Russians have their own methods, even by just buying gift cards from a marketplace (edit:removed url)

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          People keep repeating these platitudes as if digital products aren’t literally harmful to kids. (And purposefully designed that way.)

          But okay.

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              They don’t. That is why regulation is necessary.

              Just like how expecting people to recycle was bad policy.

              Though I wouldn’t be opposed to there being statutory regulations against parents whose kids get addicted to these applications and end up self-deleting or causing harm to others, not unlike how we’re seeing the state start to go after parents who fail to secure their guns. But just trusting parents to parent isn’t an option anymore. There’s simply too much evidence of the harm these applications cause.

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                I have some sympathy with your view, but still downvoted because I refuse to accept it’s conclusion. Look at Japan, Scandinavia and many other countries where social responsibility still prevails. Throwing hands up and saying “well it’s just human nature” is the laziest get-out to avoid fixing the broken parts of ones own excessive, hedonistic culture.

                It might be true that the ones that need to be convinced won’t listen to the argument itself. But we can start to re-empower more responsible citizens to impose shame - yes, fucking shame - on those that raise their kids and otherwise act irresponsibly in so many ways: the polluting shit they consume, the regimes they support with the subscriptions they pay for, the inefficient gas guzzlers they decide to drive off the forecourt. It needs checking.

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            By all means, utilize the parental controls on your children’s devices to keep them away from harmful content.

            But keep the government out of people’s personal devices, and stop attacking the basic concepts of anonymity, privacy, and data security.

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            Please keep repeating this propaganda as if it were true.

            Australian studies have shown that the social media ban is harmful for children.

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            This screams: “I don’t want to parent my kids, so let the government do it instead, and do it to me too along the way.”

            Do you really not see how that takes away your own agency? Both in terms of raising your kids and your own privacy.

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    2 days ago

    In another news 90% of the world online scammers and hackers suddenly have gone…

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      90% of the world online scammers and hackers

      It’s crazy how these major tent poles of the modern internet - Facebook, Google, Twitter, and Microsoft - are all centered in the United States, but never bare any responsibility for the malicious traffic on their networks.

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        The craziest part to me is that instead of dealing with bot traffic so they can tell advertisers actual people are seeing their ads, they’re just adding age verification.

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          17 hours ago

          Age verification that will, itself, be quickly subverted and spoofed. And which they won’t bother to manage internally, because that’s hard

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      You wouldn’t believe that this was one of the narratives for justifying the invasion to Ukraine in early 2022. Russian social media was full of narratives basically saying that Ukrainians are no longer able to scam common Russians, because the so-called “scam centers” were hit by missiles.

      It’s 2k26 and the same warmongering narrative is everywhere in the west social media. Y’all think you are invincible to propaganda, yet you’re falling to it in the same way.

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        I hate the US and Russia equally, i dont have a side in this. That being said, what are you actually saying here? I dont think anyone is saying we should invade Russia.

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          Nobody was talking about invading Ukraine before 2010, even in 2014 the idea about invasion was marginal: Crimea was something that wasn’t generally perceived as a part of Ukraine (bc reasons, don’t dive into it), while Donbass was washed as a separatist movement.

          But there was also a significant piece of propaganda that demonized the new Ukrainian government, its people, and the whole premise of Ukraine’s existence. This propaganda was not a deliberate preparation for invasion, but a move that put the invasion card on Putin’s table as an option.

          The very same is happening in the western media with the same methods used, like one discussed before. To have this option just in case they need to engage in a war with Russia.

          I hate the US and Russia equally

          As a Russian myself, I don’t. They are not equal at all: Russia is an established authoritarian state with imperialistic ambitions, while the US is a fully fledged imperialist with authoritarian ambitions. They both deserve hate, but for different aspects

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            Congratulations, you’re now the first user I’ve removed a tag from. For some reason, I must’ve thought you were shilling for russia a few months ago, but this comment proves I had you tagged wrong.

            I don’t think you honestly care, but if I had a biscuit to give you, I would give you a biscuit.

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                2 hours ago

                Hey, we all make mistakes sometimes. It takes integrity and strength to admit when we have and then correct course.

                I’d say at least 80% of people on the internet are more likely to dig their heels in and double down on the bit…

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          I hate the US and Russia equally

          If I were a native or neighbor of one, I might hate it more than the other, merely due to proximity.

          I dont think anyone is saying we should invade Russia.

          I seem to recall a bunch of anti-Russia hawks saying exactly this when the invasion happened in '21. The US, the EU, the rest of the Asiatic continent - they were all told they needed to team up and crush Russia, once and for all.

          Now that the US has collapsed into a fascist regime marginally sympathetic to Russian white nationalism, the Keyboard Commandos of Reddit don’t really expect Cheeto Mussolini Von Putinkisser to take the fight to Moscow.

          But I’ve also heard (1) Putin is senile / infirm / on death’s door and regime change in Russia will come any day now and (2) The Russian military is absolutely on the brink of collapse, so another year or ten of drone skirmishes will be the end of the entire Russian armed forces with a bit of patience. Just a few hundred more billion to Ukraine will be the end of the Russian army absolutely for certain guaranteed. So we never really needed to invade directly, just finance an endless parade of mercenaries to get the job done.

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            invasion happened in '21

            24 February 2022. I see that you’re not from a neighboring country, otherwise you would have remembered this date

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              The buildup begin in '21. Although I’ve had people yell at me for suggesting the war didn’t actually start in '14.

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    1 day ago

    “AI warfare” or, “AI is stealing all the jobs of our army of international scammers, that we allow to operate freely as long as they don’t target Russians!”

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    Insulating oneself from American internet platforms may be a lofty goal, unfortunately the Russian version of the internet isn’t much better. China did a much better job and now they don’t have vaccine deniers, they didn’t suffer from people refusing to wear facemasks, and they aren’t about to have a far right coup

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        Imagine living in borderline fascist countries and believing that the fascist-free Chinese model is worse by any metric.

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          I assure you, the Chinese internet is not a picknick, it’s got plenty of its own wackos and weird shit going on. But the party is very quick to shut down stuff that it sees as a potential image problem, but they won’t do shit about a problem until it becomes a significant embracement.

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            So they actually tackle problematic issues instead of indiscriminate censorship, and that sounds like a worse alternative to you than “absolute freedom of speech in capitalist/Nazi-owned social networks”?

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              They take on issues that are problematic for the party’s image, if they’re not problematic for the party they let it thrive. Outside that narrow window, china’s internet is even more of a Skinner box, addiction suck, dystopian corporate hellscape than the English speaking internet.

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              Listen comrade, you know China isn’t some dreamland full of happy wealthy people, it’s got huge numbers of poor, starving people, young people stricken with cancer, disease, bulldozers, you name it. They’re ran by an uncaring party, who are turning the screws on the population who are rebelling and dying.

              I know you know. And now you know I know you know. Your little pink act is tired.

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                They’re ran by an uncaring party, who are turning the screws on the population who are rebelling and dying

                Chinese support for their government is astronomically higher than in any western country

                You have been lied to.

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                  Yea that tends to happen in places where you get disappeared if you actually share any discontent.

                  Their grip is so embedded that they intimidate Chinese dispora in other countries, and on that basis, what would have to gain by being honest about what dislike about the government and have only hardship if you confront them.

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        They literally steel reinforced the doors to prevent people leaving their apartments in China, I think they took it seriously enough.

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      This is terrible advice. They can and will track you down. Only way this might be viable is if everyone turns off their transmissions and the transmitter changes location constantly or is deployed via drone sporadically.

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        Is there a solution to this whole government censorship problem? I don’t know networking, but it seems like the centralized systems get the central nodes shut down and the decentralized systems are too easily tracked and/or too inefficient. Reticulum looked interesting, but it was still pretty traceable, and appears to only really be for messaging apps since you have to know where you’re sending to already. Your motion idea has some merit to it, but I was kinda hoping for something more on the software side.