• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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        I mean, you’re more than welcome to not be bothered by her attending a gala in Moscow with Putin and Mike Flynn the year after Russia illegally annexed Crimea and started a war in Donbas but I sure don’t like it.

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          I don’t like that our so-called fourth estate ices her out, and that rt is one of the few outlets that allows her a platform. she had no control over her table arrangement.

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            She had full control over whether or not she attended, and she chose to attend. It’s also stretching the truth to call a candidate ‘iced out’ by the press after she placed 4th in the election; there’s barely any interest in third party candidates during elections, much less in between.

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        It’s a photograph. It has been edited after the fact to label the individuals in the photograph along with a succinct description of who those people are. How is that propaganda?

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          have you ever bothered to look up the definition of propaganda. any lexicographer will tell you it may be true.

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    Vote for Jill Stein…

    So what’s the theory here? Voting for a fake leftist with a (G) after her name is better than voting for a fake leftist with a (D) after their name?

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    I love that the extreme right and the extreme left have converged on the exact same arguments. Totally doesn’t raise any concerns. I wish I had some of my old Reddit screenshots of /r/conservative users.

    • How are they the same exact argument? The extreme right hates anyone left of them for reasons that change on the daily. The left hates neo-liberals for their pro capitalist stance, how they are for profit minded in how they handle life, and seem to change their social policies in matters of convenience.

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        A little googling found me a reference to a YouTube comment, but it’s a good example of the rhetoric I’m referring to, and which makes just as much sense in this meme as it did when being shouted by the people who call statues of Confederate generals “heritage”

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          Oh yeah, when the parties had different ideology centuries ago and what not. I find the right though uses that to try and be a gotcha in conversation, where as most others use it to reference parties can and do change.

          Edit: My favorite inane statements from the far right is they’re called the right because they’re right, hurr durr. I wouldn’t put much emphasis or consideration on their arguments, it changes to fit their narrative at the time.

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    the sheer volume of absolute garbage posts attempting to de facto support actual fascism from The Usual Guys and some sock puppet accounts lately

    it is almost as if there is a consequential upcoming event they would like to affect for the worse

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    unpopular opinion time

    i don’t like how “liberal” is being coopted to basically mean neocon right now. the clintons and the blue dog clinton wing of the democratic party are not liberals, they are conservative. bill clinton is a republican wet dream if it wasn’t for the d next to his name, he deregulated industry, did foreign intervention, and balanced the budget. blue dog dems and third way are not liberals.

    it also doesn’t help that so many who identify as “liberal” seem to be pro-israel. if the term wasn’t so poisoned i would be more happy to call myself a left liberal. i like systems and electoralism and liberal democracy. but i also believe in building coalitions, and right now the left left is gaining steam, thats an opportunity, not a threat. and we need to turn left from this shithole we’ve been in since at least reagan.

    it’ll never happen where neocon voters support a democrat, they’ve been forcefed anti democratic propaganda for decades. i remember when a progressive dem won a local election in texas he branded himself like an independent with a yellow lawn sign and “democrat” nowhere to be seen.

    i don’t see the progressive left as a threat to democracy.

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    “greatest ally” is used exclusively by the absolute farthest right internet assholes btw. lets just agree to identify these things and keep them out

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    By all means vote your conscience but don’t fool your self that she can win or that you can punish democratic leadership with a loss.