We do do that. You’re describing farming. Humans love to terraform land masses in order to propagate species we consider beneficial. Check out Against the Grain: A Deep History of the Earliest States and a view of history in which humanity itself became domesticated through symbiosis with native species.
I think on average beaver ponds promote more biodiversity than human farms, allowing for a larger number of specialized species to find homes. This article gives a breif view of how beavers help to boost biodiversity, including hosting beaver pond specialists. Some methods of farming promote biodiversity, but monoculture largely prevails - 80% of arable land plots are used for monoculture globally.
So we need to do better and strive to do as good of a job as the beavers do.
I think on average beaver ponds promote more biodiversity than human farms, allowing for a larger number of specialized species to find homes.
They’ve been slower and less industrial in their integration with the biome. They’re also region-specific. You don’t see beavers outside of North America and Scandinavia/Eastern Europe. Release a bunch of beavers into the Amazon River and I suspect you’ll either get a bunch of dead beavers or an invasive colony of beavers that fuck up the local ecology.
Some methods of farming promote biodiversity, but monoculture largely prevails - 80% of arable land plots are used for monoculture globally.
Give beavers the cognition necessary to perform deliberate inter-generational selective breeding and cultivation techniques to create large crops of sterile monocultures (bananas, for instance) that become a beaver diet staple and I suspect you’ll get a different outcome.
So we need to do better and strive to do as good of a job as the beavers do.
Beavers don’t know what they’re doing. A lot of the dam building is predicated on instinct and impulse. A big problem with humans is that we do know and we can communicate between each other to optimize our work product. Beavers do not - for instance - know about concrete. If you were able to teach them about concrete, and they were able to propagate this information inter-generationally, I doubt we would consider their projects so benign.
Somewhat famously, beavers are rampant in … southern Argentina I think, and they are incredibly invasive in a biome that is not able to take advantage of them.
i suspect beavers in the amazon will likely be invasive, as they dont have natural predators other than probably anacondas? maybe jaguars, or other wildcats, but they mostly are in water. and they can bring diseases, and parasites to the amazon. one thing rodents are good is at, is breeding large numbers, but beavers might be different. the Nutria looks like a beaver with a tail has become invasive in N america.
I can definitely see how a race of superintelligent industrialized beavers could be a bad thing for the world, so as far as the comic goes you are right lol.
As for real life beavers - whether beavers are conscious of it or not, the way they relate to the ecosystems they inhabit in some ways sets an example for humans to follow. We don’t need to limit ourselves to only living in North America and Scandinavia/Eastern Europe, but maybe we should try to farm in ways that intentionally promote species diversity. There could be other lessons to take as well, such as spending more effort farming appropriate locations (beavers spend considerable effort finding the right place to set up shop) - many farms around the world are located without much thought toward how they will relate to neighboring ecosystems.
As for real life beavers - whether beavers are conscious of it or not, the way they relate to the ecosystems they inhabit in some ways sets an example for humans to follow.
Be annoyed by the sound of running water. Cut down trees until the water stops. Eat any smaller animals or non-poisonous plants in the vicinity. Repeat.
I’m not sure this is still true in the industrial era where human impact is responsible for habitat loss, monocultures, mass extinction and loss of biodiversity and reduction of undomesticated biomass in general.
Beavers actually build spaces that allow for more specialized species to thrive. We could do that too, theoretically.
We do do that. You’re describing farming. Humans love to terraform land masses in order to propagate species we consider beneficial. Check out Against the Grain: A Deep History of the Earliest States and a view of history in which humanity itself became domesticated through symbiosis with native species.
and a recent scishow about how “weedy” species like rye tricked humans into propagating it, ultimately evolving into a crops itself.
I think on average beaver ponds promote more biodiversity than human farms, allowing for a larger number of specialized species to find homes. This article gives a breif view of how beavers help to boost biodiversity, including hosting beaver pond specialists. Some methods of farming promote biodiversity, but monoculture largely prevails - 80% of arable land plots are used for monoculture globally.
So we need to do better and strive to do as good of a job as the beavers do.
They’ve been slower and less industrial in their integration with the biome. They’re also region-specific. You don’t see beavers outside of North America and Scandinavia/Eastern Europe. Release a bunch of beavers into the Amazon River and I suspect you’ll either get a bunch of dead beavers or an invasive colony of beavers that fuck up the local ecology.
Give beavers the cognition necessary to perform deliberate inter-generational selective breeding and cultivation techniques to create large crops of sterile monocultures (bananas, for instance) that become a beaver diet staple and I suspect you’ll get a different outcome.
Beavers don’t know what they’re doing. A lot of the dam building is predicated on instinct and impulse. A big problem with humans is that we do know and we can communicate between each other to optimize our work product. Beavers do not - for instance - know about concrete. If you were able to teach them about concrete, and they were able to propagate this information inter-generationally, I doubt we would consider their projects so benign.
Somewhat famously, beavers are rampant in … southern Argentina I think, and they are incredibly invasive in a biome that is not able to take advantage of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beavers_in_Southern_Patagonia
TIL
i suspect beavers in the amazon will likely be invasive, as they dont have natural predators other than probably anacondas? maybe jaguars, or other wildcats, but they mostly are in water. and they can bring diseases, and parasites to the amazon. one thing rodents are good is at, is breeding large numbers, but beavers might be different. the Nutria looks like a beaver with a tail has become invasive in N america.
I can definitely see how a race of superintelligent industrialized beavers could be a bad thing for the world, so as far as the comic goes you are right lol.
As for real life beavers - whether beavers are conscious of it or not, the way they relate to the ecosystems they inhabit in some ways sets an example for humans to follow. We don’t need to limit ourselves to only living in North America and Scandinavia/Eastern Europe, but maybe we should try to farm in ways that intentionally promote species diversity. There could be other lessons to take as well, such as spending more effort farming appropriate locations (beavers spend considerable effort finding the right place to set up shop) - many farms around the world are located without much thought toward how they will relate to neighboring ecosystems.
Be annoyed by the sound of running water. Cut down trees until the water stops. Eat any smaller animals or non-poisonous plants in the vicinity. Repeat.
This is just The Romans.
I’m not sure this is still true in the industrial era where human impact is responsible for habitat loss, monocultures, mass extinction and loss of biodiversity and reduction of undomesticated biomass in general.
We do that. Mainly for rats, pigeons and cockroaches tho.
Crows be eatin good out here
Or just stop destroying the environment so the beavers can do their thing.
We do do that? No such thing as a non-GMO cow.
pidgeons
yeah I think if your too knowledgable on the subject the cartoon kinda falls flat.