• glimse@lemmy.world
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    15 小时前

    There’s literally only two options until we change the voting system. Something that is unlikely to happen under Democrats in the near future but guaranteed to never happen if we continue giving MAGA power.

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      14 小时前

      Mathematical game theory might be too abstract for some. You’re correct but I’m worried the message may be seen as arguing for entrenching the status quo, it’s a packaging problem for a bitter pill.

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        6 小时前

        I’m not saying we shouldn’t end FPTP but this has become a thought ending cliche.

        England is mostly FPTP they have ditched both Labour and the Conservatives in the last few years according to the polls. Canada has FPTP and they have 3 viable parties.

        The math is not preventing a third party. This mindset is.

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            5 小时前

            Was it around the time when they passed their nationalized healthcare service? The healthcare service that wouldn’t be a thing without the NDP. The kind of healthcare we still don’t have here in the US. The kind of healthcare that polls at like 70% in the US.

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        14 小时前

        Sure but it makes a hell of a lot more sense than telling everyone not to vote.

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        14 小时前

        Its not correct. That’s not how statistics work. Its very much possible for a non-democrat or non-republican to win. Predicting likely outcomes doesn’t mean those things will happen. Y’all sound like MBA bros.

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            7 小时前

            You dont think that both parties could offend the majority of americans and cause a third party to win?

            I’d argue that Donald trump was third party at the start, and that republicans and democrats offending most Americans is how we ended up with him.

            If Bernie or someone like him were to win the presidency, would they be considered a democrat or an independent?

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              7 小时前

              No, I really don’t, did you see 2016 and 2024. They voted in utter incompetence rather than consider it. I agree with you that it’s incredibly frustrating but in order for a third party to be viable ranked choice would need to be introduced. It’s a bitter pill.