• Digit@lemmy.wtf
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    13 hours ago

    Republicans also really love when you vote third party.

    (Or Democrat party too, depending on where the votes are being taken from)

    Until enough people do, and sufficient votes are taken from the purple party, that they lose.

    … But then, may also need to mend all the lobbying, gerymandering, voter suppression, rigged voting machines, electoral college, etc first/simultaneously.

    Imagine if the people in USA got a system that helped them vote for what they want, not against who they don’t want. Imagine… :)

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      11 hours ago

      Using “Democrat” as an adjective is usually an indicator of someone who mostly consumes right wing media.

      This thread is full of commenters trying to convince people not to vote (for good lefty reasons, of course!)

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      13 hours ago

      Until enough people do, and sufficient votes are taken from the purple party, that they lose.

      Nope, you utterly miss the point. First past the post means that Republicans win when the anti-fascist vote is split.

      If you don’t like the current candidates of the Democrat party, then go vote in the Democrat primary.

      Imagine if the people in USA got a system that helped them vote for what they want, not against who they don’t want. Imagine… :)

      There is this little thing called “objective reality”. First past the post sucks, but it is objective reality. You should try taking it into account, some time.

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        12 hours ago

        Nope. Did not miss your point at all. You seemed to miss mine, and doubled down.

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          12 hours ago

          I remember when Gore lost Florida, and therefore the country, because less than one tenth of one percent of voters thought a protest vote for Nader was a good idea. In primaries and in smaller elections, sure, give third party votes a try. But the bigger the election, the more it converges on a choice between the two major parties, and one of them is worse than the other.

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              10 hours ago

              The Republicans would never have been able to steal it, if third party votes had not made it close.

              If everybody who voted Nader had voted for Gore instead, there would have been no wiggle room for the Supreme Court to butt in. And every Nader voter who was not an idiot know from the polls that Nader would not win.

              With Gore instead of Bush, there would have been no Iraq War, for one thing. And the US would have taken climate change seriously.

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                9 hours ago

                " And every Nader voter who was not an idiot know from the polls that Nader would not win."

                future knowledge is an impossibility

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                9 hours ago

                “With Gore instead of Bush, there would have been no Iraq War, for one thing”

                this can’t be proven, either

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                9 hours ago

                “If everybody who voted Nader had voted for Gore instead, there would have been no wiggle room for the Supreme Court to butt in.”

                this can’t be proven