• Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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    18 hours ago

    Supporting either is a support of fascism, as the Democrats, being a neoliberalist party, fundamentally enable fascism. This bullshit didn’t just spring up overnight, it was the result of generations of political fuckery by the owning class to slowly and methodically consolidate power while keeping the working class pacified with bread and circuses.

    Your simple, fallacy logic doesn’t fly. Real change doesn’t come from a ballot box.

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      Supporting either is a support of fascism

      Fascism - a far-right, authoritarian ultranationalist political ideology that emerged in early 20th-century Europe, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and subordination of individual interests to the state. It promotes national rebirth, militarism, and often racial superiority.

      Can you explain to me how you think the Democrat party is fascist? Because in this definition of fascism, the only one I can stretch to make work is “militarism”, but then A LOT of countries would be falling under the fascist label.

      Republicans, on the other hand, check all of these boxes.

      The Democrat party is flawed and weak. They are not fascist. Learn to use words properly based on their definitions.

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        5 hours ago

        One is fascism. The other enables fascism through systemic means. Thus, support for either is supporting fascism.

        Go read theory. You’ll learn a thing or two. Malatesta has good works on this subject.

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          The other enables fascism through systemic means.

          Can you, using the defnition of fascism, describe how Democrats enable fascism?

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            Can you go read theory to gain an understanding of complex systemic forces? I’m not going to sit here and explain textbooks worth of information about the inner workings of political systems to you.

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      That is exactly the arguments a Republican shill would use.

      Even if both options are fascist, one of them is clearly less fascist. And unless you make sure a third option exist, not voting on the less fascist option will give you the more fascist option.

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        Even if both options are fascist

        That’s the thing. The person you’re responding to is trying to draw you into an argument in which you acknowledge Democrats are also fascists. They are not. Not by the very definition of the word.

        You don’t need to point out that a less fascist party is better than a really fascist party, which is true, because one of the parties in question is not fascist. Period.

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        Lol if you think that’s the argument of Republicans then you are desperately unread in leftist theory.

        We don’t play that bs, reactionary “lesser evil” bullshit.

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          Or you are desperately unread in Republican theory. The post we are all commenting on is about you.

          Having to rely on the lesser evil is a result of a 2-party system, which is a result in a winner-takes-all system.

          If you want to break the system, go right ahead. But until then, your mentality is what caused Republicans to win and the US to slide even faster into fascism. This is the reality. Not whatever utopian view you have of the world.

          So congratulations, you played yourself.

          Unless you don’t live in the US of course, which looks to be more likely every comment you make.