• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Even if both options are fascist

    That’s the thing. The person you’re responding to is trying to draw you into an argument in which you acknowledge Democrats are also fascists. They are not. Not by the very definition of the word.

    You don’t need to point out that a less fascist party is better than a really fascist party, which is true, because one of the parties in question is not fascist. Period.

    • Digit@lemmy.wtf
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      4 days ago

      That’s the thing. The person you’re responding to is trying to draw you into an argument in which you acknowledge Democrats are also fascists. They are not. Not by the very definition of the word.

      The? There are several flying around.

      Which definition? e.g.:

      1. Government and corporate power acting as one?
      2. Binding people together in groupthink?
      3. Military industrial complex rule?
      4. “Neo-Liberalism” (the Orwellian euphemistic synonym, being neither new nor liberal… same old fascist)?
      5. Centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, with a policy of belligerent nationalism, racism and jingoism
      6. Oppressive, dictatorial control?
      7. Top-down government / anti-democractic government?
      8. Auth-Right (e.g. as per the political compass)?
      9. Corporatism (the synonym preferred by Musolini)?
      10. Oligarchy (exacerbated with Ed Bernays style “crystallising public opinion” and kakistarchy on its plutarchy/kleptarchy come attercoparchy) / “Big Baron”?
      11. Not the Democrat party, the Republican party?

      One of these is not like the others. ;)

      Until that last one, I was struggling for a definition that didn’t have the Democrat party also qualify.

      This whole thing has me think of Pacific’s song, “Break your social system”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNCrYT--VKk

    • Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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      4 days ago

      No, Democrats are a center-right neoliberalist party. They are not fascist and I’ll never claim that they are. I am trying to get people to read and educate themselves on how certain political philosophies, through the systemic forces which they reinforce and institutionalize (capitalism, electoralism, Imperialism, etc…), enable the political philosophy that is fascism to hold and consolidate power over the population.

      Go read a damn book.