We’re trying to rewatch Invasion now that it’s concluded (or cancelled). First season is heavy going, lots of parallel plots that only slowly intertwine if at all, and not necessarily so much happening in every episode.
Next will be a For all mankind rewatch to be fully prepped for the upcoming season 5. Let’s see if we can time it so we can binge the new episodes without a week’s wait in between…
I was disappointed with Invasion because Sam Neill wasn’t a lead. I only got up to the penultimate of season 1.
What am I watching? Well it’s always Star Trek. Other than that, The Office Superfan Episodes. Also started Monsterverse.
Hey, Sam Neill was in most of the first episode! 😆 Yeah, that was a weird stunt casting choice.
Rewatching Invasion now, it’s really not that good. It’s as if somebody said during brainstorming, “Hey, slow burn is pretty big right now, how about we make this NO BURN?”
Something like half of the screentime is dedicated to a family that just seem to wander aimlessly around North America. Then smash cut to a few minutes of something actually relevant to the story.
I am caught up on invincible and and fallout.
If you haven’t watched knight of the seven kingdoms, I would highly recommend it
Still making my way through Voyager, for the first time.
I tried some time ago ST Prodigy and found too silly, I heard some encouraging comments about it and Im giving it another try. 6 episodes in Im enjoying it more than the last attempt.
It’s aimed at a younger audience but very much the continuation of Admiral Janeway and Starfleet, shame we won’t get a third season
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I can’t see anything through these tears. I’m in SFA withdrawl.
Right? I said it elsewhere, but given the show’s global traction it would make so much sense to produce another Short Treks season to tide us over into season 2.
SFA has a metacritic user score of 1.7 “overwhelming dislike”
Honestly surprised that you would cite such a transparently manipulated crowd-sourced rating.
Especially when the Rotten Tomatoes pro critic score is 88% — far above the ‘review bombed’ audience score.
Also, it seems you’re unaware that the review bombing was so bad that it’s been having a ‘Streisand Effect’ raising the profile of the show.
When a show or movie has a distribution has a stack of 1/10 “worst show ever” votes and a fairly flat distribution otherwise, it’s clearly not showing votes of people who have seen it.
The IMDb profile is particularly revealing. The overall rating of the show is low 4.4, with lots of 1/10s, but the ratings of the actual episodes run from 4.7 to 7.0 with an average for the episodes over 6 — despite some continuing review bombing.
Here’s the obviously review bombed distribution of votes for the show overall.
Here’s the crowdsourced vote distribution for episode 10
The brigading by review bombers who never watched the show but claim they “saw some reviews on YouTube and know all they need to” got so completely out of hand that the people who have done this have made the situation into a pop psychology meme. Psychology Today even wrote a feature article “The Trouble with Review Bombing” about it.
I also note that haverholm has linked the Flix Patrol rankings that show that SFA drew much more audience on platforms other than Paramount+ — which suggests it’s doing its jog in attracting new audiences.
do you have proof of review bombing? your reasoning for it not being actual reviews seems thin at best. who do you think is doing it? and why?
can I also ask why you put weight in IMDb but ignore metacritic? it’s just an aggregation site after all.
rereading you comment it seems that you feel that reviews of the show don’t count unless those people also review each episode individually? I’m not sure why you think that though? most people aren’t going to continue watching a show they don’t like so why would they then continue to review each episode?
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That distribution of reviews tells the story.
An honest distribution of views of people who had watched at least one entire episode would not rate with 1/10 = the worst show they had ever watched.
Not to mention that there are many people posting in other places that “they don’t need see it to know it’s awful” and that they are “campaigning against it.”
why wouldn’t they? because you’ve decided they wouldn’t? and your other point is apocraphal and just strengthens the fact that lots of people don’t like it
Yes, the outrage factory has its reach, no doubt.
I can’t find the post right now, but I believe@[email protected] had a rundown of viewing figures that indicated a rather different result than people downvoting it online.Edit: found the comment thread
where is the run down? I just see opinion?
oh I see you mean the comment above, unfortunately there isn’t really much there apart from a certainty of review bombing without any proof. how does anyone know that these aren’t actual reviews? I know it’s hard sometimes when people don’t like the thing you like but no need for conspiracy theories without proof
Sample review:
Looks like they let woke write the script and ruin another show. Klingons are so misrepresented it’s sickening I had to turn it off. Klingons are a strong and proud race but you have them be wusses. So wrong!
Strong incel keyboard warrior energy in that “review”.
90% of bad reviews I’ve seen online have been from people who were saying it was shit before it first aired and then talking about not watching it
I have no evidence to support anything other than that being a great idea
I’ve been listening to X Minus One: https://archive.org/details/OTRR_X_Minus_One_Singles
Radio Plays from the 50s of sci-fi short stories.
I’m late to the party, but started Starfleet Academy last weekend and am up to episode 8. Absolutely loving it and regret not watching it as it aired so I could gush about it with the rest of you all. That also caused me to miss the AMA with Karim, and that saddens me more than you can ever know.
Trying to stretch those out, so mixing in some backlog of Family Guy, Bob’s Burgers, and The Golden Girls. As soon as I have the time and attention span to start another new series, I’m gonna watch A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.
What’s your favorite episode so far and why is it episode 4 and 5 combined?
Definitely those two. Ep. 4 and the Klingon’s space play-fight with the Federation over the planet so they could “conquer” it was as adorable as it was believable. After 900 years, losing their homeworld, and nearly going extinct, they still hold on to their code of honor which is the only thing they really have left. Incredibly well done.
As for ep 5, I always shed a tear of happiness when a later series revisits DS9.
Thank you for being a friend.
Skip Intro?
How dare you, Netflix?!
I rewatched a few SFA episodes while waiting for the following one. It’s so good, it really bears repeat viewings.
probably some star trek
Going through a Star Trek Voyager rewatch from the beginning. I’ve done this with TNG and DS9 a couple of times and constantly rewatch those episodes. I’ve only gone through Voyager once and I don’t rewatch it much, so it’s kind of newish to me again.
Other than that, reading my Star Trek novels from the thrift store and borrowing Blu-rays from the library to rip into my collection. I really want to do a watch of X-Files again!
One of our kids recently suggested doing a TNG or Voyager rewatch again with me. It may be time.
Both are absolutely worth it!
Our youngest just did a TNG rewatch a couple of months ago so I think I’ll go for Voyager instead.
I’m not going to lie, to me X-files aged even worse than most Star trek shows. Or more to the point, the real world fully embraced the show’s conspiracy theory, suspiciousness of government, and tinfoil hattery.
I can’t look at Fox Mulder anymore and not see some Alex Jones nutter with an IRL following that sucks up his ravings… 🙃
I get where you are coming from, but I have too many good childhood memories of watching both shows with my family. I refuse to let some chodes ruin it for me. X-Files was the weekly thing to sit down and all watch together.
Don’t let the dumb dumbs ruin things things you enjoy 💚
No, sure. I have very fond memories of X-files too, from the original airing.
But my latest attempt at a rewatch took most of a bottle of rum to sit through a handful of episodes. My liver just isn’t up for X-files anymore.
I still watch a lot of X-Files. However, these days I skip all the arcs and prefer the episodic monster of the day episodes.
If there’s no new Trek, that means watching old Trek, right?
Trying to finish my full in-universe chronological franchise re-watch for the 60th anniversary, which means an average of maybe 75 minutes of watching Trek per day through September 8 if I want to get it to line up. I started back in April 2024, but there’s a lot of Trek out there, and I’m already falling behind. (Ideally it would’ve been 58 minutes per day. This includes watching some episodes multiple times if they take place in multiple time periods.)
For what it’s worth, we’ll arguably get some new Trek soon whenever the “season finale” of Scouts comes out. 😂 Only one episode left if they don’t get renewed.
Wow, “full in-universe chronological franchise re-watch”? I’d need a spreadsheet for that, and at that point it’d feel like work more than pleasure 😆 So do time travel episodes like “Time’s arrow” and “Past tense” enter first according to year, then I guess The voyage home, First contact and all of Enterprise?
Basically. I have a spreadsheet with 1,300 watch items. Here are the first 10:
All Our Yesterdays The Inner Light Time’s Arrow Time’s Arrow, Part II The City on the Edge of Forever Storm Front Storm Front, Part II Little Green Men Far Beyond the Stars Carbon Creek
It’s been a lot of research and adjusting as I go along. Plus a lot of semi-arbitrary choices between Memory Alpha order, Star Trek Chronology order, etc.
Second for the spreadsheet!
I’d think that time travel episodes should be considered based on what time the crew is coming from, instead of where they go. So Voyage Home is still between STIII and STV, and First Contact is between Generations and Insurrection.
This will lead to minor troubles, mainly with Enterprise, since it has a few references to First Contact and The Tholian Web.
Also there’s that one far future episode of Voyager where a copy of the Doctor has to clear Voyager’s name, which doesnt involve time travel and must therefore be watched between seasons 2 and 3 of Discovery.
Right, so you don’t watch “The trouble with Tribbles” and “Trials and Tribble-ations” one after the other? Because I’m always tempted to 😃
I just watched The Agency on Showtime. It was outstanding, and I didn’t want it to end. I’m also thinking watching classic Doctor Who from the beginning.
watching classic Doctor Who from the beginning
Oh, do it! It’s kind of a slog by modern standards, but once you get into the rhythm of it, you understand why it became such a beloved, classic show. I watched it all a couple of years ago (minus the still image reconstructions), and it was quite rewarding 🙂
Where did you find the earlier series to watch, and how was the quality?
Uh, can I plead the fifth amendment on the “where” even if I’m not a US citizen? 😆
I’ll say it’s DVD quality, though. As in, as good as a '60s through '80s TV episodes will look on DVD… Some of the First and Second Doctor serials are pretty rough!
Yarr matey, you’re amongst friends
I’m on a rewatch of some other Roddenberry goodness, Earth: Final Conflict. I’m in season 2 now.
Non negligible amounts of plot holes looking back (and even at the time) but on the whole it holds up. I’m mostly watching it on a phone and I’m impressed at how good it still looks (most of the time).
I loved Earth Final Conflict season 1. Total X-files vibes. Very mysterious and cool.
Season two was… fine. I genuinely can’t believe it went on for three more after that.
I always assumed Da’an’s name was spelled D’on, and I thought it’d be fun if all alien names were just common names with a glottal stop. Fr’ank. Ge’orge. B’arry.
New head canon, La’an from SNW is actually called Lon.
If memory serves it started great with season 1, got gradually worse through early season 4, made a shocking comeback in terms of quality for the rest of the season, and then took a nose-dive with season 5. I’m curious how that ends up matching up with your viewing.
This is my memory as well, except not so gradually after S1.
I’m watching Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (M:LOM) which is in the midst of its second season on AppleTV.
And…my partner finally conceded to give the show a try. So, I’m rewatching season one with them. They say, based on being in the middle of season one that it’s the thing they’re enjoying most on tv just now.
While M:LOM does have creatures and kaiju battles, like the best Star Trek, the show’s emphasis is on its diverse characters and their stories.
The show has all the high quality we’ve come to expect of both AppleTV and Legendary Entertainment (Dune) science fiction productions.
M:LOM is designed as an entry point for those unfamiliar with the Monsterverse continuity or the 70+ year Godzilla franchise more generally. The action shifts back and forth between telling the stories of two generations: one in the mid 2010s and the other in the 1950s. It works well as it comes together at the end of season one.
If the show works for you, please check out our newest community https://startrek.website/c/monsterverse.
Oh, that’s another show I’m holding out on watching until the current season is finished airing.
I sort of liked the first season despite the heavy “daddy issue” trope. I was hoping that would decrease with that s1 ending,
but
looks like Kurt Russell is still in the cast?
Season two is interesting.
Among other things, the two youngest Randas are in very contrasting places psychologically since Kentaro has had two years between seasons while Cate is dealing with the reality that others have had time to move on psychologically and she has not. (I really like season two Kentaro.)
Interesting. But I’m also curious about the new kaiju you wrote about over in the Godzilla community. Metaphor for manmade climate change, huh?
I was going to watch it but I got sick of Apple putting a teaser before every other episode I watched like for a whole week and I got sick of it. you just showed to me 40 minutes ago. do you really have to show it to me again? so annoying.
It sounds like you might prefer to wait until the season is over and binge it.
The teasers and featurettes are the way Apple tries to create social media buzz rather than relying on the YouTubers to manufacture their own trailers.
That’s happening anyway, and there’s a it of AI slop. For those who want that stuff, my preference is to post the official ones.
