• chellomere@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    There is no carpet bombing of Tehran. This person is thus not a reputable source and you need to start doubting the rest of the claims until you find a better source.

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          5 days ago

          … so they precision struck those targets then?

          Your problem with Ryan Grim is he didn’t paint a bad enough picture?

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            4 days ago

            It seems to be a tragic case of incorrect intel that lead to the school in Minab being targeted. I hope the US will take responsibility for it and improve procedures, this is not acceptable.

            Carpet bombing is a way to discredit the attacks to indiscriminately target civilians. This is not the case. Yes, civilians who are in the wrong place at the wrong time sadly get caught in the cross fire, and sometimes intel is wrong. But the attacks so far have not proven to deliberately target civilians.

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      5 days ago

      Ryan Grim is an investigative journalist who has a strong track record of accurate and groundbreaking reporting. Whatever semantics arguments you have doesn’t make him any less reputable or this statement any less correct.

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          He’s providing context to help people understand what a Kurdish Iranian imam was saying about a washed up son of a former dictator. I’m not sure what’s more pathetic, your lack of reading comprehension or that you genuinely think Pahlavi is an “Iranian opposition leader”. lol

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            Reza Pahlavi is the de facto opposition leader. I know this, because I’m knee deep in the Iranian comma through family and friends. I speak the language and follow their media.

            There’s a lot of other things I found when cursorily looking into Ryan Grim and Drop Site News, of which he’s a co-founder.

            For example, they’re interviewing Iran’s deputy foreign minister without asking any uncomfortable questions: https://www.youtube.com/live/9pU9x3sQ2-s

            The coverage of the January 8-9 massacres is severely lacking. There is a lot of space given to the Islamic regime’s propaganda, for example this piece that claims to be “from the ground”: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/interview-tehran-iran-protests-internet-blackout-israel-trump-pahlavi-riots

            This account tries extremely hard to paint a picture that an organization was behind the protests, that it is “inorganic”. The articles spreads misinformation, distorts reality and ignores the brutality of the Islamic regime.

            So what I see when I look at Ryan Grim’s reporting, is cherry picking of sources to fit an agenda.

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              3 days ago

              Yeah sure, the guy cheering on as the US and Israel murder Iranian children and civilians is such an outstanding leader. He’s so good at opposing Iran, he claps when the blood of Iranian children is spilled. That will surely show those mullahs! What else can you expect from son of a dictator. His father committed mass atrocities against the Iran people after overthrowing Iranian democracy with the support of the CIA. Those are definitely the qualifications Iranian people want in a leader. It’s certainly not just the US, Israel, and a number of bitter exiled monarchists pretending Pahlavi is king.

              Also it’s really hilarious that you linked pieces by Jeremy Scahill. The guy is an even better journalist than Ryan Grim. He won a number of awards for his on the ground reporting on American wars in the Middle East. How arrogant do you have to be to assume you know the region better than he does?

              Also he’s not saying the protests were “inorganic”. Thats just a lie. He’s trying to understand to what extent Israeli and American assets acted as agent provocateurs which isn’t a crazy thing to try and investigate! It’s a known fact that the CIA and Mossad operate in Iran and have carried out acts of sabotage and assassination. Do you really think on the advent of a war the US and Israel wouldn’t try to take advantage of internal unrest? Amazing lol

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      6 days ago

      They mean striking civilian targets when they say carpet bombing, they don’t mean WW2 style mass dumb bombing.

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        They mean what they say and it is propaganda. In addition, the amount of civilian targets hit are few. The Islamic regime itself is responsible for a lot more deaths. The opinions of regime-critical Iranians inside the country can be summarized like this: yes, bombs are scary, but the regime is more scary.

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          Bro two hospitals and a school where they haven’t shown a valid target nearby is three civilian targets too many for the most technologically advanced military in the world.

          Double tapping is just fuel on a bonfire but sure if prevaricating for fascists is your deal then carry on.

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              Keyword used to be, we have the largest Intel apparatus of any nation, combine that with Israel being at the very least top ten especially when it comes to Iran.

              They knew, stop trying to make excuses for the inexcusable.

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                I still don’t think they knew, or at least mistakes were made. I don’t see any reason to stike like 500 military targets and then just that particular school.

                People give the US too much credit

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                  So you’re under the impression we know how to find their nuclear program, is exact storage locations, the defenses in place, how much rock and concrete it’s under but somehow some way can’t use a telephone book to find out it’s a girl’s school or use satellite photography to see school children going in and out on a daily basis?

                  Really that makes more sense to you then people taking part in a self proclaimed holy war striking civilian targets?

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                    Yeah, I do indeed think intel on that other stuff you mentioned might get more attention

                    How do you explain that out of, say, 5000 schools, they attacked just the one?

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          The Islamic regime itself is responsible for a lot more deaths.

          STOP JUSTIFYING THIS. YOU. ARE. BRAINWASHED.