• Cyrus Draegur@lemmy.zip
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    Wow.

    I’m actually nauseated.

    To know for a fact that I can still feel things,
    and that what I feel about this is actually appropriate,
    is sadly almost reassuring…

    This is one of those scenarios where I’m not opposed to capital punishment.

    Violations of social contract to this magnitude void the violator’s entitlement to the social contract’s protections and amenities. This creature has revealed it lacks humanity, and removing it from the biosphere would be a net improvement.

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    … arrested after authorities “tracked him in one of the victims’ vehicles,” the Utah Department of Public Safety said … the vehicle “was tracked through southern Utah into northern Arizona and eventually into Colorado,” Utah DPS said.

    I wonder if this was through some car network link system (like OnStar or uh… I don’t know the names of any others) or if this was from license plate reading cameras, which are everywhere now.

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      “The woman’s husband was able to track the car’s location using an app that monitored the vehicle’s key fob.”

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        It’s true, I didn’t read that far. Does this suggest she had an air tag or something similar on her keys? The manufacturer’s key fobs don’t have tracking built-in – or do they?

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    Woof. ANOTHER name for search engines to autocomplete when typing “murders Ivan mil”, interestingly

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      I’m from Utah.

      Getting suckered into believing a lie doesn’t make them evil, just gullible. Complacent in something evil, yes, but only because they’ve been brainwashed.

      Maybe chill a little bit. Those are still humans, show some empathy.

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        edit: i recant my original sentiment.

        whatever these people individually believed had nothing to do with what happened.

        if they happened to be opposed to authoritarianism and opposed to the worship of tradition, and in favor of evidence based scientifically certified factual information over reactionary cult thinking, it would not have changed anything at all.

        Injecting political considerations into a violent act that was specifically not politically motivated is entirely inappropriate.

        original text follows, soft-redacted by spoiler tag because it sucks


        this was a stupid thing to say and i regret it

        They were LITERALLY calling empathy a “sin” this time last year. They resent empathy. It’s wasted on them.

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          It’s okay. Back when I was Mormon, I said some really heinous and stupid shit, and I seriously regret it. I got chewed out on the internet for it every time I tried to be ‘a lifelong missionary’ in the comments section, and rightly so. I was being a piece of shit.

          At the time, it felt true because everyone around me was parroting the same talking points. It was wild. In one breath, they talked about how communism is awful and socialism is an imminent threat to our way of life, and then immediately switch to talking about what their church calling is and making donations at the Bishop’s Storehouse, and ranting about how much they hate the corporations that have taken over the government. You cannot make this shit up, they’re the all-time grandmaster champions of doublethink.

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        Gotta be honest with you, that lie they believe convinces them to take part in some rather evil behavior. Source: I lived in Utah too. That’s where I learned all the racial slurs. I only learned three growing up. Moved to Utah and hoo boy.

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      If you read the article, only the victims were from Utah. The murderer is from Iowa.

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          It shows an absolute callousness to the murder of 3 people, wrongfully implies the killer had some affiliation with the state, and makes you sound like a cunt

          For advice on not being a callous cunt, when 3 people are murdered how about not using that as a soapbox to insult where they lived…